That’s fucking bullshit. Detaining people is absolutely a law enforcement operation.

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    Just now, israel attacked iran, as a distraction from all these protest, so typical of trump. the media immediately started focusing on that news instead of this.

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    “We’re there to protect their federal officers, their federal personnel,” Sherman said in the interview. “We’re there to protect them so that they can do their job.”

    Negative, commander, you are there to protect the constitutional right of US citizens to safely assemble and express their first amendment right to protest.

    Make peaceful revolution possible. That is your duty, son.

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    Newsflash: The commander overseeing operations CANNOT temporarily detain people as it is a constitutional violation. What they are trying to say (between the lines) is that they have declared “Martial Law Light”.

    Shit is about to get (more) stupid.

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        On guys you are Americans! You love full fat milk, full fatty burgers, 100% sugar surely you can get full fascism if you wanted to! You still can’t get eggs but hey Kamala had a weird laugh am I right?

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          more like she towed the biden line of incompetency and bombing Palestinian babies. its hard to quantify the magnitude of failure that was the biden term and then his gnarled fingers clinging to the presidency and ruining most of Kamala’s chance of having a proper campaign, am I right? I cant wait to vote for Israel is his number priority Schumer to build cohesion in the party with is and that golem in congress with their glowing charisma

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            I hear you. But they are still bombing them babies, and now you are set to lose your freedoms that you love so much. As a guy born during communism you guys have no idea how bad it will get. And the communists didn’t have drones, internet disinformation and other cool tech toys. But sure, voting for the harmless less than perfect candidate sure sounds like a terrible idea especially when the other guy said exactly what he was going to do!

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              i didnt say voting was bad, i jsut said that both parties are owned by genocidal Israeli money and the ones obviously on the take and with no other pressing priorities, they need to be primaried and called out in every mention

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            You are rewriting the past. The Biden administration did many times many good things, you are equating something every politician in America does to one guy because Cheeto Mussolini said so. How’s Trump doing on the not bombing Palestinian babies front? Oh?! Oh dear…

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              biden did nothing substantitive, name a something that wasnt just a stronger definition of what obama already did and the rest was tossed in court with no plans, just because you make a token effort knowing it is going to fail and then ignoring it afterwards is not a success. He was a horrible president and is directly and most responsible for Trump being back in office. You are the one rewriting the past. And then maybe you were someone in the narrow minorities he tossed token proclamations at, his assistance using our tax money to turn babies to ash is enough for me to ignore any minimal efforts he attempted

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                The voters are responsible for Trump. Biden and Trump are on the same damn team, and they play us against each other. So you can’t abide Trump or any politician then, because they all are complicit in the atrocities in the Middle East. Republicans much more so them Democrats, but I digress as they are all guilty.

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    Bold of you to assume this about enforcing law (or keeping peace).

    This is escalation for the sake of performative leadership. It’s another manufactured crisis. They find a manageable problem under someone else’s purview, exacerbate it, use the escalation to claim the other party is losing control, step in, and pretend to help while the other party solves the problem, then they take credit and walk away. It’s a power grab. Bonus points if it distracts everyone else from the supposed leader’s negligence, incompetence, and outright theft. The Big Beautiful Bill isn’t drawing the same portion of the public’s attention as it was before, is it?

    The bullest of shit indeed: enacting cruelty on the vulnerable to enable robbing the overwhelming majority Americans.

    This concludes the rant. Thanks for your post. I hope we never stop talking about this and never let future generations forget.

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    🙄 is that why you’re in the military? to detain unarmed protesters on your own soil?

    get fucked.

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    Here’s the relevant section of the article that the title is referencing:

    He emphasized that while troops can temporarily detain individuals, they must wait for law enforcement officers to make actual arrests.

    Unless the guard troops are working directly with law enforcement, or are there at the request of the state, or the Insurrection Act has been invoked, none of which have happened or are the case, then it is completely illegal for them to be detaining anyone for any reason. Those troops should be refusing to follow those illegal orders. As should their commanding officer, but I’m getting the impression this is not a guy with a lot of critical thinking skills.

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      Unfortunately the Insurrection Act doesnt help when the president is the one leading the insurrection

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      Even an arrest is temporary if we haven’t thrown out due process. Habeas Corpus means a judge has to look at things, and decide to extend the detention until trial. Also, the trial has to be “speedy”.

      It’s probably not good that there is a mechanism for legally detaining someone for months without them being an imminent threat to themselves or others. But, that’s been status quo as long as I’ve been drawing breath, so I’m used to it.

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          I believe most defendants choose to waive their right to a speedy trial in order to have more time to prepare. It’s so common that many judges schedule themselves under that assumption and some will even be biased against persons that do not waive that right.

          [Judge] Murphy was angry with [attorney] Weinstock because the public defender wouldn’t waive a client’s right to a speedy trial, the complaint says.

          https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/judge_who_challenged_public_defender_to_fight_then_heard_7_cases_without_co

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            I was arrested and bond was set ridiculously high and didn’t waive my speedy trial rights because I wanted to go to trial ASAP and get out of jail. The judge delayed it twice on me and I spent 270 days in jail until I found a bail bondsman who didn’t require any collateral because he believed someone who spent 270 days in jail instead of pleading out for time served wouldn’t jump bail. Charges were dropped shortly after I bailed out. I am not sure how they justified delaying my trial over and over but it was 100% bullshit.

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              I wish that injustice didn’t happen to you, but I believe it did. Also, it tracks with some of the “issues” with speedy trials in the U.S.

              Depending on jurisdiction the clock “stops” when there’s a undecided motion in front of the court and in those jurisdictions it’s relatively easy for a prosecutor and a judge to conspire to put off a “speedy” trial arbitrarily long. I’m sure such tactics could give grounds for appeal, and might even be standing to sue the judge, prosecutor, and jurisdiction for violating your constitutional rights, but they’ll definitely work at least until the are properly and expensively challenged to establish precedent. Plus, I know sometimes constitutional rights are held to protect someone from federal action, but most criminal complains are handled by the states, and not every state has a “speedy trail” in their state constitution.

              The criminal system in the U.S. is too easily abused by authority; we need real reform. I think we need do need jails and prisons and adversarial court cases, but there’s got to be some way to get by with fewer of them.

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            Depends on the jurisdiction, but in most of the U.S. “speedy” (~90 days) is actually the default, and you have to waive your right to one if you’d like more time.

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    Given the lawsuit regarding the electoral votes, the military should be holding the house and president until that lawsuit is finished.

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      Our military is supposed to be fully beholden to the elected civilian government, the only “holding” possible is the current acting government.

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        Seriously, who do they think is in charge of the military?

        I’ll give you a hint it’s not generals.