• korendian@lemmy.world
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    So I am very much a numbers and data guy. If there are anomalies, I am very happy to acknowledge them. I am also disgusted by Trump and how he is destroying the country, and voted for Kamala in 2024.

    With those caveats out of the way, this whole article and lawsuit is cherry picked bullshit. The precincts in question (yes precincts, not counties as the article states), were extremely red in 2020 as well. Some precincts had 0 votes for Biden. Yet these were not questioned back then. Why? Because Biden won the larger election, so who cares? Why are these alleged anomalies not relevant in 2020, but suddenly relevant now? Bare in mind, these were precincts that went strongly for Clinton in 2016, and did a full reversal in 2020.

    What was the difference between the two election cycles exactly? The village is 100% Hasidic. Clinton was viewed as pro Israel, and Biden as anti-israel. That is the explanation. This lawsuit will be dismissed, I am certain of it. As much as I would love to see Trump arrested and thrown in jail for something like this, the evidence is not there to support it.

    You can check these numbers out yourself by checking the New York times detailed election map for each election year and searching for Ramapo, NY.

    EDIT: Actually, upon further research, the shift from Clinton to Trump is much more interesting than I thought. Apparently she met with community leaders in her Senate race, during the same time her husband was president. Some community members at that time were involved in a criminal scandal involving a fraudulent Hasidic school at that time. She was overwhelmingly voted for by this town. Shortly after, her husband commuted these individuals sentences. So clearly the community remembered this. The town is called new square, you can read about the alleged quid pro quo scandal on Wikipedia.

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        To hardline zionists, any mention of acknowledgement of the Palestinian people is anti-israel. He is definitely supportive of Israel overall, but Trump was more supportive overall, and won the hasidic vote by an overwhelming majority.

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        MAGA logic. The same logic that allows Christians to support Trump even though he’s personally violated all 10 commandments. It’s magic.

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        He’s absolutely a zionist. Don’t capitalize the word. That belief system doesn’t deserve respect, the same way we shouldn’t give any respect to nazis.

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            Because fuck zionists. They don’t deserve respect. Just like nazis. They don’t deserve respect. Treat them as an afterthought. They are murderous thugs.

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              I’ll be the first to admit that Zionists are modern day Nazis, and they’re not welcome in my house. But my phone keyboard autocorrects them to capitalized versions, no idea why. Turned it off now I can write: I’m glad the people convicted in the Nuremberg trials got executed, because they were nazis. I consider zionists the modern day equivalent of nazis. Not sure if this is worth the hassle of not having autocorrect.

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                My phone autocorrected to capitalize the proper noun. I just deleted and fixed it. You don’t have to turn off autocorrect all together. Just change it when it’s wrong (like when it capitalizes a proper noun). Mine learned to stop capitalizing after I updated the word several times.

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      Yeah, I think this article is way too far into the weeds. A lot of the comments in this thread are starting to sound a little too much like the right wing conspiracies we saw coming out of the 2020 election. And I get it, we’re all looking for ways to prevent this from happening again.

      I don’t think there was any fraud–bar the usual voter suppression and sleazy tactics the Republicans engage in. Voter turnout went way down for the 2024 election compared to 2020. Had there been wide scale vote tampering, I doubt they would’ve let the total number of votes for Trump go down. Besides, the 2020 post-election bullshit lawsuits showed that our voting system is relatively secure and it’s quite difficult to fabricate votes. The unfortunate reality is that Trump voters really are just that dogmatic and close minded to keep voting for him

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      Yea, there are just 2-3 small online news outlets covering it.

      Looks like fake news.

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        When one side has a strangle hold on mainstream media they can make you believe something isn’t credible just by not covering it.

        There’s a reason the right focused on owning most all news media.

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          Yes, I see an article on it now. There was a major lag … like they had to get permission, or were trying to cover it up.

          This officially makes it worse.