Note that I’m not necessarily opposed to her facing consequences for killing him – my issue is with how gleefully NYPost is framing it as if she just attacked him out of the blue and shoehorning her into the “evil transgenders” stereotype

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    Yea, as awful as the NY Post is for framing it this way, this ain’t about them being trans. She bought a knife, wanted to stab someone, picked a fight and continually escalated (she fucking spat on him, sorry but bodily fluids are an assault and the dude had every right to treat it as being hit) until she pulled a knife in an encounter she started.

    Got hit three times before pulling a knife? Just cuz she was too fucking slow to stab him after the first hit like she wanted to.

    Can’t believe there’s people defending this.

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      I’m guessing that people are defending transgenders in general and this shitbait NY post article frames it in. Away that isn’t too far off from insinuating that all trans are “pure evil”.

      Hell, “trans” shouldn’t have been in the headline as it is of no consequence to what happened. Whatever the reason for the incident, she didn’t stab the guy because she’s trans. One human stabbed another, that one was trans or black or green for all I care doesn’t matter and it is very hard not to feel that this bit was added just to sow division amongst people

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        it’s a dogwhistle. they’re implying that trans people are mentally ill and that the postal worker is a victim of inaction with or indulgence in the trans population.

        It’s the same reason why all the chuds started banging out about how violent trans people/leftists are when that trans man (if i remember correctly i did) shot up a school a year or so ago.

        despite the fact that the overwhelming amount of school shooters are cis right wing incels

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        Duh, because it’s the NY Post. They are trash. That’s why most comments have even been prefacing statements about the defendant talking about how shitty the Post is.

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      She bought a knife, wanted to stab someone

      Sorry, but when a “news” journal is that deep into batshit clickbait propaganda, you can’t use other articles written by them as a source of truth. Hell the second article isn’t even an article it’s just a statement with no source, wrapped in acid.

      I’m not saying she’s innocent or that it was called for, but there’s no reliable truth in that article other than the man is dead.

      Guns aren’t allowed in New York, She’s trans, needs to protect herself. It was a steak knife, not exactly a weapon you use to fight someone for funsies.

      If she was pure evil, she would have gotten 25 years. They gave her 15 because she was in the wrong, but it wasn’t black and white.

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          well that’s a GREAT way to get blocked, don’t let the door hit ya!

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            For posting an article proving many points of your statement to be incorrect?

            Do you find it unacceptable or rude just to correct you? Or just tone because you need people to only interact with you the way you want?

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              Nah, I already read half a dozen articles on it from outside the US.

              It was the nasty little comment. There’s no excuse for that tone here. If you can’t argue in good faith without being nasty, they get blocked.

              I had already read the take from several neutral news sources that had dug further and clarified their information without going out of their way to be pejorative.

              Also of note, when arguing, you don’t just go nuh uh and post a single link for someone to read. My problem was clearly with the tone of the bad-faith source they originally used. But then, if you go and look at their post history, they’re just constantly trolling.

              Their account has a lengthy history of negative karma, and I don’t have time for that. Honestly, none of us should put up with that. Block the people being nasty and move on.

              Her case is over, she plead out, she is sentenced. she got a middle of the road sentence for the crime.

              Now, let’s suppose we do cover that article that is in your own words, “proving many points of your statement to be incorrect”. What exactly do you say that disproves? It says it happened, that’s certainly not up for debate. It says Hodge died, and she was arrested and charged with murder. Then then paraphrase the deli managers statement “According to the deli worker, in that instant, the woman pulled out a knife and stabbed Hodge in the stomach.”

              There isn’t anything in that article that is substantially against my statement. You should consider re-reading what I wrote and understand I didn’t claim she didn’t do it, and wasn’t in any case innocent.

              But, if you go and read any one of the other articles, or, what has been listed otherwise in this post, (or the actual coverage of the evidence in the court case) There was back and forth. Spitting and insults were raised, tensions were high, he might have thrown a bottle at her and likely called her names. She threatened him before stabbing him.

              Rich and another customer tried to intervene, but neither Cruz nor Hodge wanted to back down, Rich said. ‘I got in between them - twice,’ said Rich, who remembered another woman joining her and trying to get Hodge to stand down. ‘Don’t to this, you have a good job, let this go,’ Rich recalled the other woman saying. Rich said Hodge, however, took his coat off and said to Cruz, ‘You want to stab me?’

              Yeah, she’s guilty AF, but it wasn’t premeditated. She has some psychological issues, but she’s not some satan hellspawn looking for people to stab. She needs help, it’s good that she’s off the street. It’s fucking Harlem man, if someone threatens to stab you, take em at their word.