I’m sharing this in response to Thai transgender YouTuber alleges sexist treatment at Chinese airport
TL;DW:
If you identify as someone in the LGBTQIA+ community, please don’t travel to China. It is very unlikely that your human rights will be respected to say the least.
One of the last things i recall hearing she did was revealing how the chinese government was spying on people through a popular keyboard app, i think that might have been more significant than the LGBT issue, or might have been the event that crossed the line or something
The CCP has cracked down on LGBTQIA+ people in the past and continues to do so with reckless abandon. Entering China is still equivalent to playing Russian roulette.
Consider traveling to the following alternative travel destinations:
- France
- Spain
- Belgium
- Finland
- Ireland
- Netherlands
- Germany
- Sweden
The above list was made from the list of countries that passed the minimum threshold with at least 10,000 supporters Ban on conversion practices in the European Union
Please also consider checking this list of countries as you can also see which country provides the best indexed/(measured?) support💪:
Just a warning: Croatia also passed, but it’s not LGBTIQ+ friendly at all.
I remember Naomi. She posted about stuff on YouTube in the periphery of the stuff I liked to watch. My favorite video was her talk about her implants and how she did that for herself as a way to be creative. She also did fucking walk-ins to Chinese manufactures to get copies of their versions of Linux as required by the Linux license.
It’s horrible that she was silenced so thoroughly.
The implants weren’t just a creative thing, they were an expression of gender identity exclusive to Chinese/Thai lesbian culture.
archive.org link to the article shown in the video: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes
another more recent article: Where is Naomi Wu?
The very last online communication I’m aware of from Naomi was this update on the book she launched on Crowd Supply: Project update 3 of 3: Perfect Your Pronunciation, dated 25 April 2024, so she was at least still alive and had access to the internet at that point.
I hope that she’s just decided to shut up and prioritize her own safety, and the Chinese government is okay with that as long as that’s her side of the bargain. I have no idea but it seems possible.
People who are transgender are discriminated against where ever they go. China is no different when it come to oppression. When was the last time China dropped a nuke on a civilian population. Come on Now I want some of that USAID money bruh
I feel like you guys need to be more subtle if you’re going to comment under stories like this.
“It was fun while it lasted” 💔
The whole fucking thing sucks. From the carelessness of the Western press even when it concerned her direct personal safety, to the rampant cruelty and brutality of the whole Chinese system, to the casual misogyny of the internet as a whole. And then of course all these dumbshits on Lemmy who pretend that all this oppression isn’t real no matter how tragic and obvious it is. Bottom line, she deserved better.
I also perked up at the mention of “Second Thought” as someone who would try to shit on her a little bit more, indirectly, and object strongly and try to do some damage to anyone tried to speak up on her behalf. “Second Thought” is one of the YouTube channels that I’m pretty suspicious of as some kind of fakery masquerading as leftism. I have no idea about the landscape of this kind of leftist streamer palace intrigue, but I just thought it was a super interesting statement.
I haven’t gotten a chance to watch the video yet. Will have to later today, but can you tell me more about the second thought stuff?
I’ve watched that channel, but I’m unaware of what might be wrong with it. Is there something that seems off about it? I thought it was pretty interesting, but I haven’t gone too in-depth into the channel
So I first got suspicious of them when they aired a story about economic troubles in rural America… and they kept going out of their way to connect it to the Democrats. I mean, they’re not really wrong, but at the time they aired it was right in the middle of Biden’s absolutely massive effort to address economic troubles for working Americans. They talked about how wages have been going down for these people in this small town for decades because of 100% bipartisan not-giving-a-shit (which, yes, fair), without mentioning that wages had been going up pretty specifically and specifically for that small town for the past year, because of the IRA.
I mean that alone is not fatal. Not everyone with bad things to say about the Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer corporatocracy is a secret Chinese agent or anything. But it just started to strike me as weird the conjunction of:
- Random YouTube channel out of nowhere
- Weirdly high production values
- General adherence to things all leftists already believe, lots of focus on just repeating and emphasizing them
- Casts about, before the election, trying any which way they can to single out Democrats and Democrats alone for criticism
- Talks up third parties as a good solution, no particular stance on RCV or other reforms that would make them viable
If someone tells me that we can add to that list a new bullet point “Weirdly totally unconcerned about human rights abuses in China and in fact hostile to the idea that they happen and to anyone who wants to talk about them,” that would be another huge bullet point in the pattern that would start to take the shape of a pretty recognizable outline, to me.
Thank you for the information. I think I had seen that video, but didn’t consider the timing of when it released. That does seem odd.
Yeah. There are people like Hasan Piker who are clearly just talking about what they want to talk about, and the chips fall where they may. And then, there are other people in the landscape, where the topics of conversation follow a very particular ebb and flow (as you say, the economy and the government’s relationship to it has suddenly become super unimportant to them, now, this year, not worthy of close and extensive examination all of a sudden). And also, when those topics are discussed, certain very particular framings and cliches seem to show up again and again.
I honestly don’t really know which category “Second Thought” falls into. My suspicion of them isn’t based on all that much more than a couple things I found suspicious. But I did find a couple things about them to be suspicious.
Well that’s interesting, thanks for sharing. I think it’s good to always ask questions about what media we consume. Even if we like what it’s saying or think it’s fine. Critical thinking and being cautious can never hurt
