• einlander@lemmy.world
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        I’m speaking of the people in general against pride/LGBT. If they actually believed what they preached then we would not be where we currently are.

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          Well, the people against pride are not the ones thinking love is love. They’re the ones thinking love is only right between a cis straight man and woman. This meme is directed at straight allies, not adversaries.

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            Hi, “straight ally” here. The meme’s (and @einlander’s) intent was obvious and I’m not offended. Moreover, I would go so far as to say that anybody who does get offended was lying when they claimed to be an ally in the first place.

            Y’all have way better things to do than to try to white-knight for the already-privileged majority, LOL!

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              Sure, I was not saying the meme is not ok, I was trying to correct eilander’s probable misunderstanding of who the meme is directed at. I was not evaluating the meme’s legitimacy.

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      Our neighborhood (business association but that’s downplayed) hosted their first Pride last year, made attempts at getting actual queer people involved this year, and then announced they were $20k in the hole due to sponsors pulling out. FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Everything about this is wrong. Pride is supposed to be COMMUNITY BASED. When sponsors pull out, we’re now having to scale back plans. As a local queer community-building non-profit, I’m having to pay money to this group to have a presence, and they want me to supply volunteers to work the main event… wtf is happening… they’ve inverted it

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      You might want to reread the post, because nothing about it implies straight people are in charge of pride. Only that the straight response to pride month tends to be empty celebratory phrases instead of recognizing how LGBTQ people are still being hurt.

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    The fascists are just expecting the rainbow to fade away. But in reality, it’s gonna be like leprechaun in space

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      leprechaun in space

      hmmm. the fourth installment in the series! a 1996 horror comedy film about a leprechaun who chases a princess and a crew of space marines

      kinda can’t not watch it now

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    I don’t have time to bother with any of this when the USA is literally turning into Nazi Germany. This kind of thing is the least of my worries. I’ll worry about this stuff when your skin color being too dark doesn’t put you at risk of being disappeared off the streets any more.

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        Honestly, it’s because most people don’t give 2 shits about cross-dressing weirdos. There are so few of them, and they aren’t the most visible in society. Racists though - they see skin color everywhere they go.

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          In one paragraph, you support an anti-racist ideology, while insulting other marginalized people.

          You’re not the good guy you think you are.

          Realize that your brand of bigotry usually goes hand-in-hand with racism- and that you don’t hate based on skin color- doesn’t exempt you from being called out for hate speech.

          I’m leaving your comment up to serve as an example of how NOT to be.

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            I can support people’s right to be who they are and not be discriminated against (by the government and businesses), and still consider them disgusting to be around. I don’t have to like the people to believe that they should have equal rights.

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              It’s always interesting to watch someone keep digging even after they’ve hit the buried nuclear waste, insisting that the treasure must be below.

              After all, that sign must have meant “keep digging” when it said:

              “This place is not a place of honor. No highly esteemed deed is commemorated here. Nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us.”

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        Yes I sure did. We’re all the way back to fighting for the rights of people based on sex and skin color, forget lgbt issues. They’re the 1%ers when it comes to this stuff. If I’ve got the time to fight for people’s rights, it’s gonna be the rights of people which I can gather more of. We’re back at Jim Crow era policies. I’m not wasting my time fighting for LGBT issues when there are much more pressing ones at hand.

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          You know nazi Germany started with queer people right

          It’s a bit tone deaf to throw groups under the bus like this. There is no prioritization, we’re all in this together. We all fight together. You will get nowhere if you exclude people from the fight

          Queer people are also way more than 1%, not that that’s too relevant, we are all part of small minorities in some ways

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    That’s one of my favorite things about Pride Month: getting to hear a different version of what a straight person should be from every single queer activist I know.

    Maybe just do your thing for once and leave the sermons in church, friends.

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      I too hate it when people in a place of oppression tell me in which ways they are being oppressed, and how I could help them stop being oppressed. It really makes me angry!!!

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    This post reminded me it’s been a bit since I’ve done any volunteering; just emailed a local org that does concealed carry and gun safety courses for LGBT+ folks to see if they could use an extra hand. So, thanks for posting this!

    There’s only one effective way to handle a confrontation with a Nazi, and that requires you to be armed!

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    It is rather a problem that pride allows cops, companies and rightwingers (as long as they profess to equally push down people) in their parades .

    I will show up once the bricks are back in fashion

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      Do you not want to include people from what you consider problematic to join in pride? That sounds like the opposite of the goal

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    People do not care about other people. People are not empathetic.

    All people really want is validation, and for liberal, middle-class straight people, feeling validated means supporting a company that displays a rainbow for a week out of a year so they can say they’re not hateful bigots and thus feel validated.

    You all need to understand this, not so you can give up and be doomers, but so you can more effectively advocate for human rights. Knowing what dark, selfish dials and levers are set behind the average person’s values gives you the opportunity to find ways to get your better results without spinning in circles. Yes, their personal values on equality are selfish and hollow… but so are most values until they become so standard in society that the alternative becomes to shameful to contemplate. We’ve done this many times in history, but we lose progress the moment we expect people do to the right thing for its own sake.

    The right is great at leveraging people’s desire to be validated and accepted to further their own goals. Can YOU think of ways to make people feel a desperate, panicked need to support YOUR values? When we all start thinking like villains just a little we will have fewer villains in the world.