A couple months ago my account was permabanned (was not provided a reason) from the site and I have since been trying to make a new one. The problem is though that every single time I make a new account, it is either instantly suspended or suspended a couple hours later. So far I have tried: -Unplugging my router for a few minutes to change my IP -Clearing all of my cookies -Making the account on a very old device (which has never logged into Reddit before) -Using a brand new email -Making the account on Duckduckgo which has encrypted connections
Mind you, I did all of these together, at the same time, and Reddit still was able to instantly link my account to it. Is there a single thing I can possibly do to avoid this ban and make a new account? It seems like Reddit has like CIA-level technology that is somehow able to track me regardless of how many ludicrous holes I try to jump through.
One thing they do is track what subs you subscribe to. So if a new account is created and subscribes to all the same communities as a banned account, they can fingerprint you that way.
They can also fingerprint you based on what browser and OS you use. Not just cookies. When you connect to websites there is info shared about you that goes beyond cookies.
Just because you got a new IP from your ISP doesn’t mean that they don’t share data about you with reddit, especially if reddit asks for info from your ISP. You don’t know what info your ISP shares about you. Maybe your ISP has some kind of an EULA but I don’t know.
If you really wanted to focus on bypassing IP ban and are willing to go to any effort, install something like Oracle Virtualbox, create a VM with a fresh install of windows, install a decentralized VPN in that virtual machine (Mysterium VPN is an example) because most VPN’s have fixed exit nodes that will be banned by reddit. A decentralized VPN allows any user on the VPN to act as an exit node, so Mysterium has literally thousands of exit nodes that change every day. It’s impossible to ban them all.
Then after connecting your VM to a decentralized VPN, you would want to use a different browser every time you sign up for reddit, and use a different email address every time. Then never subscribe to the same communities every time you sign up a new account.
And even then, they can use AI to scan comments and detect similarities between you and other accounts based on how you type.
At some point you have to ask, is it really worth it? They’re going to an absurd length to ban people. I want a community where I can be me. I believe in free speech. I want to be free to shitpost. Saying something rude shouldn’t result in automatic permaban.
Making the account on a very old device (which has never logged into Reddit before)
Did you continue using your account only on that device? If so, did you continue using reddit logged-out on your main device at the same time?
Roll up a VM. Personally I use virtual box with xubuntu. Use it for nothing but reddit.
So I actually took this advice and did exactly that. Booted up VirtualBox and ran an Ubuntu client and made my Reddit account and it got banned within 5 hours. Now every other account I make on any other virtual machine, regardless of operating system gets banned within an hour
That’s strange. They shouldn’t be able to tell two VMs are related. At best, that they’re coming from the same house hold. Did you manage to get your house IP banned?
Did you say anything on the 9 hour account that might have warranted a permaban? Anything that would have gotten a lot of reports?
I had my very first post falsely flagged for being fake and taken down by mods which probably led to that first permaban. Also, I don’t know if there’s a difference in like IPs or whatnot, because I checked and both virtual machines I made had different IPs that were on different sides of the country. Do they both still belong to the same ‘house IP’?
They shouldn’t. They also check against user agents, browser extensions, and view window size, and probably a bunch of other identifing marks. Maybe it’s picking up on those?
Its funny how much redditors care about privacy til its reddit tracking your identity through hella different ways
reddit probably has the most oppressive moderation, and the aggressive one compared to the other social media platforms.
used to think I hate mods, but I just hate when its abused by power hungry mfs, I prefer 9-5 worker mods
never had a platform ban all my accounts and then instaban any new account even using a vpn and different devices lol, hope digg does well, idk if lemmy will ever grow to the point it hits every hobby, marketing budgets always win out, just hoping there is proper paid moderation
I hate it too. I managed to get around it, but apparently they’ve gotten better.
Tbh, if Lemmy wasn’t so small, shitty and had the niche communities, I wouldn’t use reddit. But reddit does have those niche communities, so I’m stuck.
yeah I already rent a vps so I might throw a browser on there and use a browser over the browser if I need it, I kind of prefer not commenting/posting now tho
Unfortunately, like me, you accept that reddit is a mess and you let it go
I’m waiting for Digg to come back to life
Why… Fedi ain’t cutting it?
Not really. It doesn’t have the niche communitiee. And the politics here are way too communist for my taste. So you’re just left with surface level memes
This. Lemmy is even more left-wing than reddit, and reddit is crazy left wing. I watched multiple conservative subs get purged over at reddit over the years. Conservatives were basically hiding and under constant fear of being banned, but at least there were a few subs there for them to post in.
On Lemmy? There’s no place for them here. At least I haven’t found one. I dared to post something conservative in a politics thread and now I think my lemmy account has more downvotes than upvotes. Thank god there aren’t any karma requirements here.
There’s [email protected] but it’s not exactly popular. There were a few attempts before, but they got brigaded out of existence. Imo, lemmy needs to grow a lot more before a stable conservative community can exist here.
Lemmy.world has all the reddit style politics you would want, DNC slop and all. I don’t see how that’s a good thing but it is there.
they dont have alot of niches i still look at on reddit, and some communities on there is active but there are none here.
Frankly, no
There’s so little engagement here
True this ain’t a social major but it is green.
Do you expect digg to hit critical mass quickly?
I expect it to have more users than here, the type of user idk, they have a marketing budget and are known
I have no idea
People are getting very sick of reddit though
Making the account on Duckduckgo which has encrypted connections
if you mean the DuckDuckGo browser, then it doesn’t do anything other browsers do by default to hide your identity. you’re still showing up as using the same IP address as when using other browsers.
Lol second one of these today…
Anyway, welcome to lesson 101 on why privacy is important haha
But reddit won’t permit you to have non KYCed account anymore this has been the case for one or two years now.
Hence why many freedm enjoyers don’t even bother there anymore.
What do you mean by KYC’d?
KYC = know your customer
There laws imposed on businesses esp banks that require them to do basic diligence on who they serve. Ie can’t be banking cartels and terrorists
In this context, reddit won’t let you have an account unless they can tie it to an identity. This is my opinion based on my own experiences along with stories like OP.
Classic tool used for KYC for online services is your phone number but an email will work to if you use a lot.
Just give it up, she ain’t coming back
It’s just a shuffling zombie now.
Accept that they’re just not into you and move on. You make it sound like you’re somehow entitled to using their service and they have made it clear they don’t want you there.
If you do something as egregious on Lemmy and get banned you have the luxury of joining a different instance bingo, bongo.
Why do you even want to? Reddit is going the way of Yahoo Answers.
You’re already on Lemmy, just help build this to be what you are missing on Reddit.
This is the right answer
I was in the same boat and it wasn’t even my fault. Someone else was banned and I quoted what was banned. I asked people if that’s the way that person was banned . Then, the next day I was banned.
I appealed and there was no answer. I am so tired of it.
I don’t understand why they ban with such insane scrutiny. There are people on major platforms like YouTube that continue to make money even after dodging bans, and yet Reddit seemingly has like the most heavily enforced ban system on the internet for a website that is literally for shitposting and asking for advice.
I think many mods on Reddit don’t understand English well and are too lazy to read carefully. They just ban anyone with posts or comments containing some keywords. My comment is only a quote of another person and I asked if it is the reason Op is banned.
many of them are too lazy to verify each report so some will jus let the auto-ban, filter to do thier dirty work,.
A certain CEO took over and clamped down. Before she quit, she changed Reddit, making it never the same.
its mostly spez, whom later caved to muk’s demand that is doing this. i dont think she had much of an effect in the early days.
its only when trump became president in his first term, then reddit became super serious in banning people. because the amount of russian back troll bots were starting to appear in large numbers, and then we got oh so you dont like “conservatives” type of people.
this ain’t it chief, blaming ellen pao for reddit’s downfall is insanely clueless.
she got glass cliff’d on a confluence of issues on the platform, none of which were because of her. if you want to point the finger at anyone, point it at spez.
thats probably one of the lumping together strangers and banning them in bulk ive been hearing about.
