Research the business before you decide your entire future on the decision. PayPal have a long history of this shit.
He should lawyer up. If you’ve signed contracts, rented apartments and genuinely relocated for this, it should be an immediate lawsuit.
If anyone is surprised by PayPal’s conduct, they shouldn’t be.
7 rounds of interviews, weeks of preparation
wtf, I wouldn’t even waste my time with such a useless process.
Some of these employers think they’re hot shit and gaslight applicants into thinking this is an appropriate process that everyone should go through if they want to make ‘the big bucks’. “oh look at me im an industry giant megacorporation/private gov contracted defense sector/researcher academia/silicon valley tech! I can have my pick of the litter, just gotta make HR come up with a big enough maze for the rats run through to string out the weakest ones!”
No you idiots, the job market is in the hands of the worker selling their labor. The interviewee is the one interviewing the companies, the interviewee should be the one to make companies sweat from the fear of passing on them, or your skills aren’t all that unique in terms of bargaining chips. If I have to spend more than five minutes applying through your dogshit website or if you even think about wasting my time with long interview stages+handwritten testing like im back in school then you can suck on my nuts and find someone dumb enough to bite because of the bait of a big paycheck. You think your little monkey money bonus and government contracts requiring clearances and working for a recognizable company name is enough for me degrading myself any more than usual with no gaurentee of actually being hired? Nah.
Capitalism. Cruelty Is the point.
“…ask if you have given every bit you have during the pursuit”
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GTFO with that, no sympathy for themAm I supposed to feel sad for a binance bro interviewing for mf paypal? I have more empathy for a rhino poacher.
Would you not be able to sue the employer on the grounds of promissory estoppel? You bought a new house, you quit your old job, and incurred financial harm as a result of the job offer, and so by rescinding that offer (assuming the offer was unconditional), they have harmed you, and you have grounds to sue them.
Maybe in Europe, but in the US At-will employment means that you can be fired at any moment without cause, without warning and without severance.
In general, candidates who are on the end of a rescinded offer do not have much in terms of legal recourse. Although it varies from state to state, unless otherwise specified, employment is “at-will”, meaning either the employer or the employee can terminate the employment relationship at any time and for any reason. Consequently, candidates have a difficult time enforcing a job offer or recovering damages for a rescinded offer when there is no duty on the part of the employer to keep the individual employed.
That said, there are some circumstances in which a candidate may have legal recourse if an employer rescinds a job offer. The candidate may be able to pursue a claim against the employer under one of the following theories: 1) Promissory estoppel, 2) Fraudulent misrepresentation, 3) Breach of contract, and 4) Discrimination.
https://career.mst.edu/resources/students/job-offers-and-rejections/
Promissory estoppel cases are generally a case of the juice not being worth the squeeze, but based on the information in the OP (i.e. hefty demonstrable sunk costs) this particular circumstance is likely to be an exception.
When was this? Is he a registered Democrat? I can see Musk targeting him for it as a final background check.
But he has an X in his name. Musk would love him.
As an environmental regulator in America I know first hand how company owners tend to respect nothing but their own wealth and standing. I write and enforce administrative orders and penalties to company presidents and CEOs. They’ll throw the world under the bus before taking reaponsibility.
But during covid a lot of contracts and orders were digitally signed and not given wet signatures.
So a lot of American company owners are trying to pull back on everything covid. One of the angles is attempting to void all contracts not physically signed with a wet signature. Completely ignoring digital signing is a (new?) tactic being used.
I haven’t seen wet signatures for over a decade now, man, US lives in a bloody stone age.
They hold up in court, which is why for important legal documents they’re sought out.
Important legal documents are signed with a secure digital signature issued by the government. You basically have a physical OTP generator or you’re using a government portal to generate a one off.
In America we still use fax machines to transmit medical records.
No, we just get regressive rules when it benefits the rich and progressive rules… when it solely benefits the rich.
Love how there is clearly a last line cropped out.
:: eye twitches::
“If the answer is yes, you should be incredibly proud of yourself.” (My guess)
In the modern environment I can’t help but wonder, since I don’t know who this guy is, is he a citizen of the United States. Because PayPal might be towing the Trump party line for all I know. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
this is why i simply refuse to work for anyone else. period.
i quit society in 2016 and have never looked back.
i quit society
you are lucky that your deserted island has an internet connection 😂
who says you have to live in complete isolation to stop participating? i just do what i want to do, when i want to do it.
who says you have to live in complete isolation to stop participating?
dictionary and common sense.
you have an internet connection. you are paying for it, or someone else on your behalf. you are eating food and probably paying for it too. you have not quit a society.
ok. i quit being a slave. how’s that?
as pretentious and exaggerated statement as the first one, or so i suspect. while there are unfortunately still slaves in this world, taking your first statement into account, i doubt you are a person who fled from literal slavery.
society is all around you and literally the only way to quit it is to move somewhere where it is not present. which is a deserted island, or few selected areas in central australia, central africa, maybe some northern canada…
but maybe i have it wrong, in that case please enlighten me and explain your secret. how have you exited the society while simultaneously having this discussion on the internet?
settle down poindexter
Lacks specificity, but the general sentiment is understood
it was understood in my first comment. you just wanted to put on your poindexter pants.
i wasn’t the person who replied to your first post.
The sentiment might have been somewhat clear, but the language indicated a misunderstanding of how much reliance there is upon society, which is what was called out (again, not by me).
You asked a question, i answered with my opinion also i look fabulous in my pointdexter pants, i even have the matching pocket protector.
If they signed the offer, is that not a contract? Do they not have a pretty clear breach of contract case here?
No, the offer doesn’t bind parties to sign a contract, it only cements contract details in advance. Both parties can walk away at any point without any explanation.
It’s like a price sticker in the supermarket - it tells you how much something costs and the retailer must respect that. But you are not forced to buy anything upon seeing a sticker.
But you are not forced to buy anything upon seeing a sticker.
of course, but this is like the cashier saying: nah we won’t accept your purchase, the security guard will escort you out of the shop
Right to work baby! At-will employment means “You can leave any time you want, but we can fire you any time we want.”
Yeah, I guess I forgot where I lived for a moment and took for granted my union contract.
7 months ago I started a 6 month remote contract for chime.com.
At around 5 months, I asked my manager if she was going to extend me. She said no. Cool, whatever. Life of a contractor.
The product and engineer team rallied against ending my contract and my manager caved and extended my contract for another 6 months.
So a week into my new contract, they asked me to come into the office in San Francisco.
This is a difficult ask from me because I had to find a person to watch my son and my dogs. Drove my son an hour away to my sisters and paid a dog sitter 80/day to watch my dogs.
I land in San Francisco and my boss text me saying she has something important to tell me. I get into the office and a few hours later she cancels my contract because they want to have the person in my role local and to come into the SF office 4 days a week. This new position is also only paying 135k vs my 165k.
The irony of yet another fintech that enables you to do everything from your phone and yet wants the staff in the office. Screw them. You’ll find something better (if you haven’t already).
That’s deplorable! Did your contract have any early termination penalties?
No, not at all. I don’t understand why we even have contracts written if anyone can breach it at will.
Did you talk to a lawyer about this? Why are you so sure they can breach it?
No, I didn’t. I’m just going to learn from this. Never go out of my way for any corporate company.
Well, fuck them. Your product team and stuff sounds decent though. When they failed to find a local and asks you to come back, remember to demand a 10% raise.
My product team understands the needs. My engineers relies on me to make decisions.
At the end of the day, it’s all money. I’m here to make it. You’re there to exploit me. We have a mutual understanding.
No we don’t. I’m starting a private small business first chance I get. No one will get anything from me except exactly what they deserve
They won’t get more than the bare minimum from me.
