I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can’t lose something that was never yours.
Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.
Exactly. I’m pirating because I can’t afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn’t have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn’t afford it legitimately…
It’s also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you’re on a tight budget.
And the 7-day free trian totally will not become a 2 year subscription which costs more to cancel than keep, and the price will not be 3x the sticker price had you just gotten to the “buy” option. We’re a legit business!
Uhm. I don’t have a big picture view to claim yay or nay on this one but it seems like if everyone did that we wouldn’t have any entertainment at all. With only small wealth in entertainment, we would only have indie low budget movies and shows, too.
I dunno. It’s a pros and cons situation, for sure.
I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.
Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it’s way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.
10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.
I was prepared to scold you for being pedantic, but upon further reflection, I’ve concluded that you are 100% correct, and your point is germane to the conversation at hand, so you get an upvote instead.
I worked for a company that made MIDI sequencers. Had been making them for decades before I got there, and still making them long after I left.
One of the first products I worked on, the marketing team decided to put on the box, “World’s first ever MIDI sequencer” 😆
We almost need a new series called, “Companies Say the Darndest Things” that picks up after the original. I’m sure a lot of the kids in the original show are running these companies now.
Right, it’s akin to saying he stole that money from Adobe the same way the media companies imply that poor people making digital copies of music and movies they wouldn’t be able to afford otherwise is theft.
I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can’t lose something that was never yours.
Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.
Exactly. I’m pirating because I can’t afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn’t have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn’t afford it legitimately…
It’s also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you’re on a tight budget.
Just put in your credit card for the 7 day trial! Totally easy to cancel, pinky promise
And the 7-day free trian totally will not become a 2 year subscription which costs more to cancel than keep, and the price will not be 3x the sticker price had you just gotten to the “buy” option. We’re a legit business!
So close.
You should be pirating even if you can afford it because pirating is a tool to help reduce the disparity in wealth.
Uhm. I don’t have a big picture view to claim yay or nay on this one but it seems like if everyone did that we wouldn’t have any entertainment at all. With only small wealth in entertainment, we would only have indie low budget movies and shows, too.
I dunno. It’s a pros and cons situation, for sure.
Yeah. If piracy wasn’t an option, I just wouldn’t play those games.
So many games I have pirated that I have yet to play because there aren’t enough hours in the day and I don’t want to spend them all gaming.
All the money you give these corporations will be used against you someday.
“I bought a lottery ticket and didn’t win. I lost 50 millions dollars!”
You are right, of course, but I personally draw a great of pleasure from imaging the CEO of Adobe screaming, “CURSE YOU MARTIN OWENS!!!”
I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.
Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it’s way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.
10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.
I was prepared to scold you for being pedantic, but upon further reflection, I’ve concluded that you are 100% correct, and your point is germane to the conversation at hand, so you get an upvote instead.
Companies talk about lesser earnings as losses all the time.
And they’re wrong all the time
Certainly!
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I worked for a company that made MIDI sequencers. Had been making them for decades before I got there, and still making them long after I left.
One of the first products I worked on, the marketing team decided to put on the box, “World’s first ever MIDI sequencer” 😆
We almost need a new series called, “Companies Say the Darndest Things” that picks up after the original. I’m sure a lot of the kids in the original show are running these companies now.
Right, it’s akin to saying he stole that money from Adobe the same way the media companies imply that poor people making digital copies of music and movies they wouldn’t be able to afford otherwise is theft.
I agree. I would never have bought Adobe, I would have not the little bit of vector drawing I have done.
I’m grateful for InkScape, but I wouldn’t have bought or downloaded anything otherwise, so I neither saved nor did Adobe lose.
Thank you.