• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    I’m guessing if it would actually work for that, somebody would have done it by now.

    But it probably just does it’s usual thing of bullshitting something that looks like code, only now you’re wasting the time of maintainers as well who have to confirm that it is bobbins.

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      Yea it’s a problem already for security bugs, llms just waste maintainers time and make them angry.

      They are useless and make more work for programmers, even on python and js codebases that they are trained on the most and are the “easiest”.

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      It’s already doing that, some FOSS projects regularly get weird PRs that on first glance look good, but if you look closer are either total nonsense or riddled with bugs. Especially awful are security-related PRs; although those are never made in good faith, that’s usually grifting (throwing AI at the wall trying to cash in as many bounties as possible). The project lead of curl recently announced that anyone who posts a PR that’s obviously AI, or is made with AI, will get banned.

      Like, it’s really good as a learning tool as long as you don’t blindly believe everything it says given you can ask stuff in natural language and it will resolve possible knowledge dependencies for you that you’d otherwise get stuck on in official docs, and since you can ask contextual questions receiving contextual answers (no logical abstraction). But code generation… please don’t.

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        Like, it’s really good as a learning tool

        Fuck you were doing so well in the first half, ahhh,

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        it’s really good as a learning tool as long as you don’t blindly believe everything it says given you can ask stuff in natural language

        the poster: “it’s really good as a learning tool”

        the poster: “but don’t blindly believe it”

        the learner: “how should I know when to believe it?”

        the poster: “check everything”

        the learner: “so you’re saying I should just read the actual documentation and/or source?”

        the poster: “how are you going to ask that anything? how can you fondle something that isn’t a prompt?!”

        the learner: “thanks for your time, I think I’m going to find another class”

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            holy fuck this is so many words to say so little

            so congrats I’m upgrading your ban and also pruning you from the thread

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              on the one hand I feel for other people who’ll maybe read this thread somewhen down the line

              on the other, it’s not exactly like I clipped words in my post

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                also, unless extraneous circumstance, please don’t clip their display of abusive nonsense

                I bet they’d just haaaate it to be on the internet, and yet it’s exactly the kind of fingerprint of theirs that people should be able to find

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            Nice conversation you had right there in your head

            that you recognize none of this is telling. that someone else got it, more so.

            I assume

            you could just ask, you know. since you seem so comfortable fondling prompts, not sure why you wouldn’t ask a person. is it because they might tell you to fuck off?

            I’ve taken a closer look…

            fuck off with the unrequested advertising. never mind that no-one asked you for how you felt for some fucking piece of shit. oh, you feel happy that the logo is a certain tint of <colour>? bully for you, now fuck off and do something worthwhile

            That makes it a good tool

            a tool you say? wow, sure glad you’re going to replace your *spins the wheel* Punctured Car Tyre with *spins the wheel again* Needlenose Pliers!

            think I’m some AI worshipper, fuck no. They’re amoral as fuck

            so, you think there’s moral problems, but only sometimes? it’s supes okay to do your version of leveraged exploitation? cool, thanks for letting us know

            those very few truly FOSS ones

            oh yeah, right, the “truly FOSS ones”! tell me again how those are trained - who’s funding that compute? are the licenses contextually included in the model definition?

            wait, hold on! why are you squealing away like a deflating balloon?! those are actual questions! you’re the one who brought up morals!

            Otherwise you’ll end up in a social corner filled with bitterness

            I’ve met people like you at parties. they’re often popular, but they’re never fun. and I always regret it.

            There are technologies that are utter bullshit like NFTs. However (unfortunately?) that isn’t the case for AI

            citation. fucking. needed.

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              Holy shit, get some help. Given how nonsensically off-the-rails you just went you clearly need it.

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                no shithead, you don’t post this many paragraphs of mid garbage unprompted then call the other person unhinged

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                Bro, sneerclub and techtakes are for sneering at bad technology and those that worship it, not for engaging in apologia for it (or worse yet, tone policing the sneering). If you don’t like it, you can ask the mods for an exit pass out (if they haven’t generously given you one already).

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                if you can’t make a good post that’s a you problem. if people end up poking holes in your shit and you suddenly can’t keep your incoherent nonsense together, still a you problem. but:

                nonsensically off-the-rails

                take your abuser bullshit and fuck right off, thanks

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            Otherwise you’ll end up in a social corner filled with bitterness

            This is a standard Internet phenomenon (I generalize) called a Sneer Club, i.e. people who enjoy getting together and picking on designated targets. Sneer Clubs (I expect) attract people with high Dark Triad characteristics, which is (I suspect) where Asshole Internet Atheists come from - if you get a club together for the purpose of sneering at religious people, it doesn’t matter that God doesn’t actually exist, the club attracts psychologically f’d-up people. Bullies, in a word, people who are powerfully reinforced by getting in what feels like good hits on Designated Targets, in the company of others doing the same and congratulating each other on it.