• grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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    Except we have the foresight to know everything will end. Even if we were to produce 100 000 000 perfect replicas of our genes they would still hit the same wall— extinction. Further, whether we have free will or not (prolly not), we’re able to coopt the gene platforms to further non-procreative aims.

    It’s a bit like saying the point of a TV show is to earn profit for the people who bankrolled it. Well, yes that’s why it’s here and literally the only thing that will keep it going, but you can do a lot more within those constraints than play out the material reality.

    So the question remains.

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      Even if we were to produce 100 000 000 perfect replicas of our genes they would still hit the same wall— extinction.

      Doesn’t matter, had sex.

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    Objectively: It’s entropy, life is part of the process for dismantling the universe.

    Subjectively: It’s whatever you like. Personally I find a lot of comfort in the objective view.

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    Personally I feel like it is a dumb question. Life gives you meaning. By that I mean life enables the creation of symbolic truths. And what enables life is a different question.

  • The meaning of life is very simple: life has no meaning unless you create meaning. What that meaning is is going to differ from person to person.

    The meaning I give to my life is to do everything I can to further human knowledge and to learn as much as possible myself.

    For other people, it could be exploring the world, finding inner peace, helping as many people as possible, gaining power/money by any means necessary, etc.

    All valid, some more well-intentioned than others. IMO if your goal is to do good by yourself and/or to others without actively seeking to hurt others, there isn’t really a wrong answer.

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      Here is to existential nihilism. That one set me free because it’s not centered on obligation toward other people aka living my false self. My meaning is inner peace by self actualization.

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        A hundred percent. I used to just call myself a nihilist, because on paper it applies. But straight up self described nihilists are stuck in a dead end.

        I prefer to use nihilism as a reminder that there are no ultimate loci of meaning and that anything I insist on having meaning needs to be justified.

        Lol this thread. You can’t just mention the meaning of life on social media without us armchair philosophers crawling out of the woodwork and uhm ackshually-ing all over the place.

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          We can expand that into our existence doesn’t need to be justified. Nothing wrong with philosophy. It’s the only thing keeping me sane.

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      Exactly. If there is a reason for our conscious existence, it is to observe and imbue with meaning. Otherwise the world just is.

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      yes. agreed. also, ugh. i’ll guarantee you whoever downvoted your post is some fucking theist.

      but yes. 100% agreed. and once people realize this, it comes with the understanding that there is no objectively true answer. to each their own.

      BUT, here’s where we get into the freewill part of giving individual meaning to life - if you decide that your meaning is to extract your own pleasure at the misfortune of others, then i am going to decide to end your life. AND… when enough people join together to stop those that would create suffering for others, that’s when humanity is on its way to my version of a glorious moral union. a moral union not based on some book of ancient goat herders but on a democratic agreement about what we want the world to be like.

      • yes. agreed. also, ugh. i’ll guarantee you whoever downvoted your post is some fucking theist.

        Nah, just a pretentious person who’s calling other people pretentious because they don’t like who they are as a person and they take it out on others who do. No need to feed the troll.

        The last point is just the paradox of tolerance. I don’t tolerate intolerance, although I am also a strictly non-violent person except for self defense. What does work is public pressure/shame, and imprisonment in the case that they commit crimes.

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          Public shame doesn’t work. And sometimes there aren’t any laws. I’m not sure public pressure works either. The us is an example.

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      You’re what an internet turtle philosopher describe as “the pretentious dude at a party who thinks he’s got everything figured out. Really now? You figured out the meaning of life and you’re certain of it?”

      Okay, then why do you care about human knowledge and want to learn as much as possible? What about the application of that knowledge?

      Do you care about knowledge or wisdom?

      To what end do you apply that knowledge?

      To what ends will you acquire that knowledge?