• partizan@lemm.ee
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    8 hours ago

    All those illnesses are nowhere near life threatening these days. Sure, in the past when you got Tetanus, you got it from some rusty nail possibly covered by fiecies of some farm animal, then it was most likely not cleaned, not even by alcohol… Today you probably get it properly cleaned and even disinfected practically immediately.

    While I also had Tetanus and other shots, I really dont consider them all that necessary these days as it was in the past. What Im however very weary is various aluminium oxides and similar metals, especially in children vaccines. We have only studies of aluminium toxicity on rats, but those got it orally - which is a huge difference. We have no long term studies of aluminium oxides toxicity when directly injected, especially in to children…

    And thats a huge red flag for me.

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      5 hours ago

      You are doing your own form of parody to match the original posted image yeah??? Right???

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      All 3 of the diseases i was vaccinated for regularly kill people and can cause severe harm even if someone survives. As I am not an idiot I would prefer to avoid that if at all possible. I opted not to get Hep B, Rabies, Dengue fever vaccinations based on a risk profile and where I was traveling but I could and would have gotten shots for those too if the risk profile were higher.

      I also vaccinate my kids for the same reasons.

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      You know what the first thing is a medic asks you when you come in with an open wound? He asks you when you had your last tetanus shot. If you even blink before answering that question, you have that vaccine needle in you faster than you can say “autism”.

      Tetanus is deadly as hell, and even if not deadly can cause massive tissue damage. Disinfecting the wound won’t help you when the wound is deep, you can’t clean that shit more than removing debris (btw, disinfection of open wounds isn’t done in many cases, because the disinfectant damages the healthy cells that are busy healing the wound, causing longer healing times and bigger scars)

      Speaking of aluminium: Do you know how little the amounts you are speaking of are? A µg is a 1/1000th part of a mg. We are not talking about fucking Sarin here, it’s aluminium which the human race gets exposed to in shittons. The first thing Aluminium as soon as it gets a chance is forming an oxide layer, making it about as reactive as my dick to a picture of Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day. The probability of aluminium in vaccines causing health effects, when taking the dosage in consideration, is negligible.

      I would not consider you an expert in the field of infectious diseases, please inform yourself the next time before you speak up on this particular topic.

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        Even if that aluminium would be harmless, I still doesnt got a normal answer, why a day old child need a Hepatitis B. vaccine right away - its a disease transmitted sexually and by blood… Why cant you get that vaccine when you are 15y.o. for example ? There is no logical reason why an infant would need it, with the exception if the mother has it, and at that point, the child already was exposed to it and possibly creating antibodies, so vaccinate it is even more pointless.

        And yes we are exposed to aluminium in our environment and food, but by digestive track you absorb less than 1%… As I added to my post, a 2 month old child in all those vaccines receive directly in to veins a larger dose per body weight, than the official safe limit is for oral ingestion. The Aluminium in those vaccines is not an oxide, they are various salts of aluminium.

        Im not an expert, I never stated that, but clearly studied more information on the topic as you or possibly most people.

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          Copying your description to Google

          • first result is NIH dreck that reads like an anti-vax conspiracy. It’s presented as scientific but not worded that way. RIP trust in government.

          https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hepb-vaccine.html

          If a newborn’s mother carries the hepatitis B virus in her blood, the baby must get the vaccine within 12 hours after birth.

          I imagine part of the reason is timing. The vaccine is safe and effective for infants so no reason not to. Meanwhile the risk of missing one is too high, that you will get a valid test back and make the decision in time to save the infant.

          There wasn’t any info on costs or reliability but it’s quite likely the test is more expensive than the vaccine and not 100%. Given the vaccine is safe and effective to use with infants, timing is critical for the ones at risk, and the test adds cost with no value perhaps it just reduces healthcare costs

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        If you even blink before answering that question, you have that vaccine needle in you faster than you can say “autism”.

        :-)