• SuperEars@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    10 hours ago

    This was informative, and unexpectedly candid. I guess I understand downvotes as an expression of disapproval of the act of making fake IDs but if it was legal at the time to make them, then only the ethical argument remains and that’s moot if it’s illegal now.

    I feel smartened

    • The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I don’t understand the downvotes myself. Everyone out there who didn’t have a fake ID or know someone who had one before turning 21, wished they did. It was legal at the time and location where I was doing it, but it was still shady. I don’t pretend it was ethical. I was an adventurer in my youth. I went to a far away city with no money and no place to stay. It isn’t easy getting off the street without a phone or an address. The kind of jobs you can get are not always 100% legitimate. The ID shop was owned by a local criminal organization and affiliated with the local undercover police. They didn’t care how many IDs we sold to teens who wanted beer. They wanted to know who might be buying them for identity theft. Since what we were doing wasn’t against the law strictly speaking, and we shared information about potential felons, they didn’t bother us.

      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        8 hours ago

        Because the state is the source of morality and so anything that undermines the state’s purity and control is necessarily immoral. Of course we don’t believe this consciously, but on an emotional level, nearly all of us have some of this bias.