“Libs only vote and think that’s enough! You’re required to murder people to join the club!”

        • goat@sh.itjust.worksM
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          How about we just settle this.

          @[email protected], is the AfD a party of extremists with ties to neo-nazis in their supporters and leadership? And are you also a supporter of this party? If so, why?

          • Kaboom@reddthat.com
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            is the AfD a party of extremists with ties to neo-nazis in their supporters and leadership

            I don’t know, I haven’t looked into it enough, I haven’t found evidence either way. They are suspicious, but I’ve seen a lot of ridiculous name calling in my day.

            are you also a supporter of this party

            No. Flat no. I think we should deport illegal immigrants, so I’m agreeing on that front, but I don’t know enough about them to be a supporter.

            My real problem, which I have repeated a lot lately, is that you can’t trust the news, and the German government has marked them as extremist. That I have found direct evidence for. (okay, I google translated it, but that’s as direct as I can get, and that’s the same standard I’ll hold any other evidence I find).

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              I don’t know, I haven’t looked into it enough, I haven’t found evidence either way. They are suspicious, but I’ve seen a lot of ridiculous name calling in my day.

              Okay, here. 1 2 3 4

              but I don’t know enough about them to be a supporter.

              Yet you defend them? Why defend a party that you don’t know anything about?

              Media is difficult in the misinformation era we’re in. But there are tools you can use to help. I personally use Mediabiascheck, which uses many different resources to determine how trustworthy a certain media is.

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                Edit: I appreciate the effort

                For the record, news articles are not evidence in my eyes. I have said this repeatedly.

                That said, Reuters basically just says they were founded, they got investigated and got labelled a right wing group, and at one point, a Chinese spy broke into their office. How is any of that an indictment against them? They’re clearly a right wing group. Right wing doesn’t mean evil.

                The Times is just using hyperbolic language and posting that one picture of a poster that might actually be real, but the more I look for it, the more I’m convinced it never existed.

                The ABC just claims that the AfD sued over the extremist label, which Iouldn’t really doubt, it makes sense for them to do.

                And then you linked wikipedia. Like honestly, wikipedia is a known crapshoot when it comes to political stuff. And all wikipedia claims is that they want to prevent illegal immigration, which should be the default.

                All I’m seeing is a party that wants to curb illegal immigration, and for some reason, everyone is calling them Nazis over it. Maybe they are a modern reincarnation of it, but I’ve seen no evidence for it. The more research I’ve done, the more I’m convinced that the AfD are just a normal right-wing party, and everyone is calling them Nazis over it.