According to virtually all the polling, that choice is between Liberal Mark Carney and Conservative Pierre Poilievre. One wants to bring back fiscal prudence; the other, plastic straws.

Remarkably, the Liberals have held a five-to-seven-point lead in the polls from the beginning of the campaign, which they carry into the last, mad dash to the finish line.

In fact, according to the latest Nanos Research survey, Carney now leads Poilievre by six points. Several other polls, including on 338Canada, CBC/The Writ and Mainstreet Research, project a Liberal majority government of between 178 and 189 seats.

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    Pierres plan on the economy seems to be to reduce regulation, like C69 and create pre-permitted pathlines for pipelines, which would make it so that more private investment would happen. While Carney wants to fund infrastructure, splitting the budget into consumption versus infrastructure spending, and having Canada own the assets like Trudeau Seniors original vision with Petro Canada. So is it starving the beast, but on the left, in order to get more government ownership rather than less?

    Thats how I’m seeing things anyways, though the cons have yet to even release a costed platform. Its also been a decade of stagnant per capita GDP, skyrocketing home prices, and now rising food bank usage, was that all part of this plan as well or was Trudeau just economically challenged?

    Also how much do the same MP’s have as far as power, is Carney controlling every puppet string now in a dictatorial fashion, and why did he let abject failures like Sean Fraser, whose policies he publically denounced as destroying the poors standard of living, back into the party?

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      Polievere wants to deport people based on the whims and wishes of a middle eastern ethnostate but carney is the one moving like a dictator? Polievere the one simping for Indian conservative groups?

      You guys wouldn’t know a dictatorship if hit you over the head. Absolute nonsense.

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        No you misunderstand, I want him to act like a dictator, since his entire cabinet has been the worst thing to happen to Canada the last 10 years. As I said Carney basically crapped on their performance himself, in a more or less polite way.

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      Care to share what information has informed any of this? You seem to know more than everyone else and I would like to know where the fountain of information you use is.

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        Which part are you skeptical of, I’m assuming the petro Canada part?

        It was my comprehension of this:

        https://liberal.ca/cstrong/costing/

        We have dwinding productivity investment in Canada, as the Bank of Canada always points out in their pressers, and have had for a while now. Much of this is high tax, regulation, and bureacracy; this is being combated by trying to seed private investment using tax dollars, as Freeland has been talking about for a while now.

        Just consider yourself when you go to invest, would you invest in the US who is cutting regulation and corporate taxes, or Canada who is worried about indigenous groups and is talking about having corporations pay their fair share? The answer is likely why the US is 62.70% of the global marketcap, and that is what we are trying to entice while not cutting our regulatory burden.

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          You need to work on reading comprehension because I asked where you get your information from and considering none of the nonsense you have spewed can be gleamed from the source you presented without a hearty helping of right wing ignorance I can safely assume you aren’t worth further time.

          Take care.

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    Nobody wanted Trudeau, that much is true, but I think Poilievre mistook that to mean that people wanted him, that is not as true.

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      Nobody wanted Trudeau

      Meh. I thought Justin’s team did really well in blunting the economic tsunami that came with covid. I think he took a lot of reasonable steps in the right order, or his team did. He stood up for the cameras and said the words he needed, and there was a feeling of communication and openness that wasn’t unilaterally consistent but seemed consistent around covid.

      I think he made some errors - to get a list, just see whatever the cons hyper-focused on in an attempt to find some outrage somewhere - but on balance he did well. His last act, resigning at the right time to give Mr Carney a chance to get in and lay down a personality for the cameras, was also I think well done. And if Justin’s last effort was to show us a decent alternative to Milhouse, then I’ll give him credit for that too.

      I’m sorry to hear people abjectly hating on Trudeau, but honestly my biggest beef with him is the lack of voting reform as planned; but given the pandemic, I’ll take a Status Quo on that then like I will now given the trade war overshadowing it in importance.

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      This sums my view up. I would have voted for Pierre, if it was him vs Trudeau. But…Carney came along and seems logical and competent. Plus I can’t read or watch anything about the conservatives without them applying some grade-school level bullying tactic. Libs got my vote this time.

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        I’d have agreed, until it became obvious what a Trump-fellator Polievre had become. I think if Harris had won down south, even Carney couldn’t have saved the Liberals. Charlie Angus was not wrong, the Liberals have Trump to thank if they win.

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        You were perfectly ready to cut off your nose to spite your face and that is the big problem with Canadian politics that will never be solved with electoral reform alone.

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      You are right. I also feel like Carney is now the adult in the room. With the economic and other threats from USA he seems the strongest one to counter and that’s what we need. At least I hope he is the force he seems to be.

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        Watching the debates proved without a doubt that Carney is the only adult in the room. He was playing moderator during the debate consistently telling the other leaders to be quiet while the others were speaking and didn’t interrupt others when they were speaking.

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      I find it telling that he doesn’t seem to be able to understand that. It doesn’t say much for his ability to negotiate or switch gears on the fly when needed.

      If nothing else I think Trump, in his selfish way, helped us dodge a .50 cal bullet.

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        But he has a new slogan! Axe the inflation tax! It’s genius! It’s so good that this slogan will get people to vote for him, I know it

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          I never understood the excitement behind scrapping the carbon tax. Especially since it would mean that we’d just get hit with CBAM taxes when dealing with exports to the EU, and even less money coming back into our pockets. But hell yeah, industry gets to save billions while making our air more toxic! Woo!

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        Charlie Angus the other day: “Donald Trump, I’m going to say this once—and I might never say it again—I want to thank you. I want to thank you for bringing Canada together.”

        “It took a malignant narcissistic slug like you to make us put aside all our differences—all our regional fights, all our concerns with one another—and realize we actually had to stand up for something better: standing up for the rule of law, for democracy, for decency.”

        Angus went on to hit out at Trump and his “incel gang” who are terrified of diversity, equity and inclusion, adding, “Your DEI nightmare? Well, we are your DEI nightmare, Donald. Canada will always be a country of diversity. We will always be a country of equity. We will always be a country of inclusion. And we will defend the rule of law.”

        Edit: Source

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          I wish this was true. I still see too much conservative support to believe it. Almost half of this country is clearly still a threat to our sovereignty and identity.

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        For many years places like the Fraser Insistute would point to the USA larger economy and more competitive salaries as why Canada should be copying their policies.

        As usual the progressive arguments needed context like higher proverty rates or underlying social issues which to people that can barely make it past a article title is a largely lost cause. But in 2025 we can pretty just point to the flaming turd that is America and unless people are a special flavor of nuts they just kinda nod.

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    How weird is that, given that just a few months ago the Conservatives enjoyed a 25-point lead over the hapless Liberals? If the latest Nanos numbers hold up, that would represent a 31-point collapse in support for the Conservative Party of Canada over a very short period of time.

    When the post-mortem of Election 2025 is done, Trump, Trudeau’s resignation and the end of the carbon tax will all be important considerations. So too will Carney’s ascension to the leadership.