I miss it, but I still want change. Not “machete” change like we’re getting, but “scalpel” change.
Just because Trump is terrible it doesn’t make Biden any better. We’re talking about a genocide enabler here. Ffs.
The evangelist voting block forces any potential candidate to be pro Israel.
Biden was fine. Not great, not bad. Just fine.
Trump is the worst president in the history of America. Unbelievable he was voted in twice.
No. Biden wasn’t fine. Because we don’t call people who support and enable genocide as “fine” we call them bad.
But what it seems like to me is that a lot of people only care when it effects them, they don’t care when it’s people outside their country or some brown people somewhere.
Followed by another genocide enabler. Your math sucks.
Not at all. I’m simply pointing out Biden sucks.
You should
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Dr Wong said it best “it’s maintenance, like wiping you ass or taking a shower”
When were those days, exactly? I’ve studies a hell of a lot of history, and I can really only point to two moments:
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The American Civil War, but we were both the good guys and the bad guys there, so doesn’t really count.
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WW2. We fought against fascism. We were squarely on the side of the good guys.
I’ve never been alive when America was the good guys, and neither has the vast majority of anyone else.
As a history nerd that has gone down many rabbit holes a lot of the worlds problems of the last 200 years and beyond are because of countries like USA, England. Russia, Spain etc.For example Central America and even some of South America that was colonized by Spain which stole a vast amount of natural resources such as gold and silver. Later down the line some of these countries especially in central America though they were never colonized by USA USA had a lot of influence on them and even was the one controlling their civil wars like they were playing video games. As soon as communism was not a threat America pulled out of those countries and left them in a shitty place. Another example is the MS 13 terrorist gang organization which originally was founded in Los Angeles, These gang members were than arrested in United States and then deported back to Central America without giving those governments a heads up of who exactly they where sending back and by not doing that this gang turned into one of the biggest criminal organizations in the world
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If that quiet old man hadn’t decided to try to cling to power despite no longer being fit to hold the office, we might not even be in this predicament.
You’re missing a little genocide factor and a shitloads of unkept promises here
Yeah, the “leftifts” that didn’t show up for those “reasons” are as bad as the magatards and bear the same responsibility. As a leftist myself (not in US though) I curse the absurdism of leftist politicians and electors and their puritanical behavior that can’t seem to do real politics.
All of those words to say “I don’t actually believe in anything and I have no clue of what I am talking about.”
Very impressive.
I believe in pragmatism and not letting fascist take over for free.
The democrats are the ultimate enablers and coconspirators of fascism. The republicans just carry the baton past the finish line. Marco Rubio was confirmed 99-0.
Look at what the democrats are doing right now. It’s the same thing they did for four years when they could have made a difference.
As usual, they are doing nothing meaningful. They are comfortable while the constitution implodes.
“you better fucking vote for this cop we picked for you or you won’t be represented”
Mlk fucking hated people like you.
MLK worked with a Southern Democrat who previously voted to keep lynching legal in Texas. After MLK’s assassination, he shepherded the Civil Rights act through Congress and signed it into law as President.
You see, you can still protest and make peaceful change with the mediocre and not fascist candidate. Good luck surviving with the fascist one. That’s what I’m arguing that the left is horrendous at pragmatism.
It’s quite paradoxical; right, an ideology about them-vs-us being such united and left, an ideology (at least theoretically) about camaradery being such divided
You want them to keep voting for the lesser evil until eternity with both evils moving further to the right every election, got it?
Nothing absurd there.Both parties keep moving to the right becuase voters keep rewarding right by wing behaviour. You get the politicians you vote for
Well that’s what I said
Harm reduction is better than nothing. Yes, I fucking do, then I want them to vote for better people on a local level as they have the option to do. First reduce risk of further harm. Then treat the wound.
It’s crazy that you would rather have a dictatorship than a centralist .
Yeah, like you vote the mediocre and not fascist candidate and you can still protest. But if you vote (or don’t participate) the fascist one then you’ll not be able to protest and suddenly the genocide might be coming home.
They had a few centuries to get rid of the uniparty.
And they only complain for selfish reasons, they are OK with blue MAGA, imperialism, genocide, kids in cages, as long as it doesn’t inconveniences them.
They are both as bad for the rest of the world.
So no crocodile tears here. Those ‘centralists’ as you call them can go to hell.
This one is ‘special’ but he can run the country further into the ground. That is my pragmatic preference.
It will make some waves but there always is a little pain when a cancer gets removed.
It’s the only way it will get better.
Finally some interesting things happening, and entertaining too.Why do you think things will get better. Not every dictator gets overthrown. Only around, 60%? Bad odds. Your cancer metaphor is apt because removing cancer often kills the patient.
Finally some interesting things happening, and entertaining too.
People die from facism. Many people. Are you a psychopath? How could you enjoy that?
That is my pragmatic preference.
That’s not even slightly pragmatic. It’s so far from pragmatic that I question if you even know what the definition means.
Also, hella straw manning with the Political positions there
I’m not sure it would have helped. 2 Democrats haven’t been elected into office back to back since before the Civil War.
judging by the results from the election, yeah no. Nothing would’ve changed it.
Boom!
“When I wasn’t directly affected things were good!” Do better, guys.
“When things were better, things were better” is a bad thing to say now?
Better for who? The homeless? The poor? The non white? The queer? The women? Oh yeah things were better for everyone and that sets the standard of bad now.
Things are worse for all of those people now.
Nobody said perfect. But all of those parties are far worse now than they were, or would have been with Harris.
Stop letting perfect be the enemy of progress. You’re helping prevent things from improving.
They literally were better. They were not perfect. They weren’t even good in a lot of cases. But they were better for these marginalized folks.
Things WERE better for queer people and women, what the fuck? Under biden it was getting better rights were being strengthened.
They said better. Not good.
Joe Biden was a perfect example of how delegating authority to the right technocrats, and then standing back and staying out of the way is the best form of executive leadership. I legitimately have no idea why he gets so much hate even from his own party.
Yeah that worked out great re: Merrick Garland’s justice department slow walking Trump’s criminal charges.
I will never forgive Biden for appointing a fucking republican to attorney general after the previous republican administration attempted a coup. Biden is dog shit.
legitimately biden admin has been the most productive admin in the US government since like, FDR maybe. There are probably a few others, but most have been rather boring.
Do explain how passing the same bills as w bush makes Biden as productive as FDR who revolutionized how Americans get compensated and interact with capital.
He has the same problem I have at work. When everything is going well, no one really knows. The servers keep running and everyone is happy with IT, but after a while, people start to question what it is we are doing.
I voted for him and was honestly expecting worse.
Libs are willing to support genocide as long as their personal privilege is maintained. That’s a big part of how liberalism supports fascism. Trump is just a continuation of Biden.
Tanky talk
i’m neither for or against it, personally i’m ambivalent, because i’m not middle eastern, jewish, nor do i live in the middle east, nor anywhere near it. It’s literally a waste of brain power to think about it.
Of course, arguing that i think killing people is good, is fucking stupid, obviously that’s bad. But there are reasons people are being killed, and i’m not delegating that problem to myself, considering i have literally no relation. You would have to find a genuinely insane person to agree with that fact, so there’s no point in even entertaining it on a factual basis.
Would it be nice if israel stopped bombing palestine? Yeah, would it be nice if the US stopped arming them? Yeah, does that ultimately make a difference in regards to the conflict? No. I don’t think anything you did today, even if you managed a complete ceasefire on good terms, would make a good faith effort to stop this conflict. It’s a brutal conflict, there is no easy to solve it.
Reverse ethnic cleansing of israel is not really a good solution either, for several reasons. Notably morals. Likewise yeeting palestine off the map isn’t productive either.
Ultimately though, both of the parties are willing to fight, and one of them just keeps losing, over and over. At some point they did this to themselves, and i’m not sure where that point is. (granted, israel has committed numerous war crimes throughout this conflict, i’m not absolving them of that one either, don’t worry) neither party is particularly intelligent here.
Yeah, leftists would never support genocide. Except for that one time… Or that other time… And also…
How exactly are these images supporting your claim of “college students LARPing as murderous ethno-nationalists”? Because they’re wearing a Kufiya?
Palestine as an ethno-nationalist movement historically, formed in opposition to Jewish return.
You’re just wrong on this one. Palestine existed way before the Zionist movement. If a group of people move into your ancestral home and tell you, “hey my fairy tale book here says this place is mine” will you leave quietly? Palestinian protests stem from this problem. Saying a keffiyeh is equivalent to a klan hood is fucking bizarre, because keffiyehs are a cultural symbol that come from people living in arid climates. It has become a political symbol to support Palestine in this genocide taking place against them.
You’re just wrong on this one. Palestine existed way before the Zionist movement. If a group of people move into your ancestral home and tell you,
i believe this argument is supported in religious texts from both sides, which is part of the funny thing. Though it is true that israel sort of just appeared recently, that is a genuine thing that did happen.
But going through texts, palestine and israel are one in the same. They occupy the same land, granted i’m not an expert, obviously so take this with a grain of salt, but that seems to be the ultimate starting point of this conflict.
“It’s really not until the 1930s that we start to see the keffiyeh change in meaning, not by the patterning that’s in the scarf, but in its use.”
-Wafa Ghnaim, a Palestinian dress expert and a senior research fellow at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
“Until the 1920s, the keffiyeh was almost exclusively worn by Bedouin men, according to Ghnaim, and it was simply a way to identify nomadic men in historic Palestine from villagers, fellaheen, and town people.”
“According to Ghnaim, the first time we see the keffiyeh used as a political statement was during the Arab Revolt in Palestine in 1936 — an uprising against British rule that included demands for independence and an end to Jewish immigration.”
“At that time, the majority of the armed resistance was taking place in the villages, and the fighters used the keffiyeh to hide their features — helping it to become associated with the revolution. The revolution’s leaders issued an order for men to wear the keffiyeh to express solidarity with the revolutionaries and so that the British could not distinguish the fighters from others.”
“In the 1960s, it became associated with Palestinian nationalism, particularly due to its adoption by leaders like Yasser Arafat. During this era, it represented solidarity and resistance against the Israeli occupation.”
“Around the same time, the fedayeen — a term used to describe nationalist Palestinian militants — conducted guerilla operations while wearing the keffiyeh.”
“Other prominent Palestinians also donned the keffiyeh during that time, included Leila Khaled — who was involved in two plane hijackings in 1969 and 1970 as part of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.”
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/1216150515/keffiyeh-hamas-palestinians-israel-gaza
Right, none of which is ethno-nationalism. British rule colonised a ton of countries around the world, a lot of which revolted against them. Why is Palestine any different in this case? Because they fought against Jewish immigration who openly declared that they wanted to take over the land? That’s not immigration, that’s invasion.
Palestinian nationalism is just an offshoot of Arab nationalism (which itself is a reaction to Turkish and German nationalism). They’re all ethno-nationalist movements. There’s no version of a unified Palestinian state where Jews aren’t basically enslaved and robbed of everything they’ve built there.
Jews aren’t foreign invaders, they’ve literally always been in the levant. We never fully left. Most of the ones who came, came fleeing the various ethno-nationalist movements of 19th and 20th century Europe and the Middle East.
That’s not an invasion, that’s a refugee crisis. Notice the difference between how Europe and North America treat foreign refugees, vs the Palestinians. If you show up on dearborn Michigan, you might get some nasty rumors spread about you - if you show up in gaza you’ll get your head cut off on a Livestream.
The number of people who are seemingly ignorant of any of the actual politics of Joseph is alarming. Democratic aligned politics has devolved to the same level of Republican politics in the sense of metrics and language. “Economy good” is an absolutely wild way to summarize Joe’s politics and the impact on politics that he had. He was a conservative man. From his earliest days as a politician, he was conservative. He played a not insignificant role in creating the modern political landscape. Including in essentially running interference for Clarence Thomas during his initial candidacy for the Supreme Court (Thomas had dozens of credible allegations of sexual harassment and sexual misconduct). Biden was notoriously pro colonialism throughout the entirety of his political career, including ac active support of Israel going back to the 70s. He spent decades campaigning on anti-crime discourse that prioritized higher budgets for police to spend targeting minority communities, a fact he was absolutely aware of.
The political legacy of this man is not “Economy good”. It is a lifelong career against workers rights, minority rights and pushing conservative agendas within the democratic party against leftist ones. His term as president did not see any degree of preparation for the rise of fascism. He played a significant role in the failures of the democratic party during the election campaign. Refusing to step aside, proving his own incompetence over and over again, refusing to push a progressive platform, refusing to denounce colonialism and genocide, and ultimately playing into many of the same political talking points of American fascists. Joe Biden is a stain on American history. He spent his last 4 years of political relevancy fighting against workers rights and protecting international genocidal institutions. All the while he made an absolute mockery of the institutions of political power in the united states and helped truly ring the funeral bell of American trust in federal institutions.
Let his failure be a galvanizing lesson about all the failures of American liberalism. Leftism is the only true political opposition to fascism. This election was not lost because democrats went woke. It was lost because they refused to change. It was lost because of their own blatant hypocrisy and refusal to campaign on working class politics and humanitarianism. Liberal conservatism handed the reigns to fascism.
Joe Biden has been among our better Republican presidents.
He spent decades campaigning on anti-crime discourse that prioritized higher budgets for police to spend targeting minority communities, a fact he was absolutely aware of.
this was during the 90s crime wave? Right?
Let his failure be a galvanizing lesson about all the failures of American liberalism. Leftism is the only true political opposition to fascism.
i have yet to see a single lefty produce a functional model of government. Liberals base their entire ideology off of a functional governmental model. You have an uphill battle in this regard.
Cuba, Vietnam, China, Venezuela, the USSR. These are some examples of a lefty functional model of government.
but your gonna say “those governments did bad things”
And I’m gonna say “not as many bad things as the capitalist US of A”
the USSR was really only successful during it’s period of industrialization, past that they didn’t advance much and really only coasted on oil until that started to crash and basically killed them. Stalin also had some, interesting ideas of leadership.
China is an authoritarian state, has been for a long time, mao was, arguably one of the worst leaders ever. Created a massive famine that killed millions just so he could make a single nuclear bomb.
I’m not particularly familiar with the rest, so i can’t really comment. I guess you could argue that the US has done bad things, but so has basically every super power. It’s not really anything new. The primary thing is that the US still exists, china also does, but they’re also having domestic issues as well.
this was during the 90s crime wave? Right?
No, he campaigned on crime at least as far back as 1972. Throughout the entirety of his political career actually, including through his presidency. He is a conservative nationalist. In the same vein is casually racist and indeed sexist.
You said this in another comment,
and a lot of it is also 20 years old
To which I say that is not an excuse. People were anti-racist back then too, and people had been calling out police violence against people of color since the 19th century and the white supremacist origins of the modern american militarized police. Also we’re talking moreso 60 years of continual support for these institutions, not merely 20 years ago.
i have yet to see a single lefty produce a functional model of government. Liberals base their entire ideology off of a functional governmental model. You have an uphill battle in this regard.
Yes, and liberalism has historically resisted fascist takeovers so well.
Neoliberalism prioritizes the mass hoarding of wealth of the capitalist ruling class above everything else. Neoliberalism has been the dominant ideology of western electoral democracy since the time of Ronald Reagan. This is especially true of America and Great Britain. Neoliberalism does not create a functional government. It creates continuously worsening economic inequalities and devotes all its resources to preventing workers from achieving class consciousness and resisting their increasing oppression from the ruling class. Fascists are political allies with neoliberals. They have the same aims in preventing the spread of workers rights and maintaining class hierarchies.
But the mere fact that you have phrased it as a “functional model of government” is absolutely indicative of your own ignorance as to what workers rights even are and what leftism is. There are many extent leftist nations today. Social Democracy is a leftist ideology, and I find it pretty unlikely that you view the Social Democracies of Scandinavia in a negative light. Before wasting your time responding,
To which I say that is not an excuse. People were anti-racist back then too, and people had been calling out police violence against people of color since the 19th century and the white supremacist origins of the modern american militarized police. Also we’re talking moreso 60 years of continual support for these institutions, not merely 20 years ago.
it’s not an excuse, depending on what it was as well as the fact that things can change, someone may have had a negative view at a certain point, but that can change. Unless of course doing a single bad action is always constituted as a negative thing, which doesn’t seem beneficial for society to me.
Yes, and liberalism has historically resisted fascist takeovers so well.
fascist governments are opportunistic by design, and liberal democracies don’t necessarily have native defenses against them, it’s one of the biggest challenges in a democracy.
Neoliberalism prioritizes the mass hoarding of wealth of the capitalist ruling class above everything else. Neoliberalism has been the dominant ideology of western electoral democracy since the time of Ronald Reagan. This is especially true of America and Great Britain. Neoliberalism does not create a functional government.
if you operate on your definition of neoliberalism sure, but i’m not a neoliberal. The irony could be that these problems are inherent to any capitalist society, arguably any society ever, because inflation is a bitch. The only trivial way to work against it is population increase, in which the US has stagnated heavily.
But the mere fact that you have phrased it as a “functional model of government” is absolutely indicative of your own ignorance as to what workers rights even are and what leftism is. There are many extent leftist nations today. Social Democracy is a leftist ideology, and I find it pretty unlikely that you view the Social Democracies of Scandinavia in a negative light.
yeah, and a lot of the existing left leaning governments are based on liberalism, even china to some degree has a significant amount of liberalism. It’s just that they’re mostly authoritarian. You can implement leftist ideologies in a liberal government. It’s not hard or even impossible. Most of these places are already using some form of liberal government, that or authoritarian, which is less popular.
this was a good read. the democratic party isn’t as left as it seems to want people to think
and a lot of it is also 20 years old, because not everything happened yesterday, it’s almost like shit happens in the past or something.
yeah, that’s also true lol
They are the party of status quo. Say what you want, but Trump will buck trends. Unfortunately, it’s just in all the wrongest possible ways. We needed someone with the combination of confidence and stupidity that Trump has, but stupidity for good.
Be careful saying this around here, you’ll be labeled a lib, crucified, and stalked by tankies.
Democrats main motive while in power is also to make money for themselves, in a less stupid and obnoxious way than Trump.
This meme is liberal propaganda, how the Democrats booming economy helped the average american ?
Spoiler it has not, but weapons manufacturers getting those billions of public spending to support Israël. And I’m sure the friendly and nice people that are Democrats do have so shares in them.
What a clown show they just have nothing to do and they’ll end up getting elected and doing the same thing. That is if the whole countries has not turned to civil war before the next election of course.
The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats look for long-term, stable corruption while Republicans want to get as much as they can as soon as possible.
real shit. i cannot believe that people are still praising the democrats and calling anyone left of center a “tankie”
Tankies are not left of center nor ever have been.
And don’t forget being called a Nazi genocide apologist lmao
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Bring it.
Based. Tankies can blow me.
Same old song in every country. Trying to talk actual economics with someone who votes for the right shows how little they care about facts and how much their decisions are based on feelings and what they’re told by the people they consider their superiors.
Which is why you should never talk to any of them. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon.
I noticed this year before already too, and if you look at the graphs it’s just impossible to understand how much of an idiot you have to be to vote Republican.
Then Sarah Palin came by and it really showed bottom of the barrel, or so I thought.
Now we’re here…
… and it really showed bottom of the barrel
And then someone knocked from beneath.
Thank you for posting this. Helps us build block lists of the cunts.
