• kingofras@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law. I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.

    This is a coup d’etat. Lots of people will die. The regime - even if DJT dies or gets shot - will go on. There won’t be any more fair elections. I hope these protests go from 5 million to 10 million on Saturday, because only a mass movement can stop this.

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      12 days ago

      *mass armed movement they don’t care if 100 million person manifest if they fear nothing after that and no they don’t need a reason for martial law still gonna happen with only peaceful protest

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        12 days ago

        I thought when talking about the USA the arms and violence is implied. Though, historically it is curious how the French with a notorious lack of weapons wreak more havoc than them 2nd amendment folks.

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          12 days ago

          Oh it’s astrology bullshit. I was interested in what you were saying in this thread right up until you posted that link.

          I agree that we’re in for a rough time, but don’t post your astrological quackery like it’s prediction with solid evidence on what this the administration is going to in the future. Humans are amazing at finding patterns in chaos an ascribing meaning to it, but it doesn’t mean astrology is at all relevant to anything.

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            12 days ago

            Yeah I read the first sentence of the post in the image, and closed the page. No, the movement of the planets doesn’t mean Trump is declaring martial law on 4/20. For fuck sake…

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            12 days ago

            If you want to go that fast and only look at the pretty picture, maybe go read comic books. It’s not just astrology bullshit. Horoscopes are bullshit, astrology when done well can be scarily accurate. Plus I’m not using astrology as the trend setter, but the trend confirmer.

            The key thing you refused to read is that Musk is in charge, he’s a proven neo Nazi, and particularly adores Hitler. The rest you’ll have to read yourself. Or you can pander here for some more cheap upvotes.

            PS: please lemmy, can we raise the level of discourse please and not upvote these populist comments? Stay on reddit if you just want to be a walking regex that sees “astrology” + “bullshit” = upvote.

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                  10 days ago

                  Yeah that’s not how science works.

                  You are the one making the claim (“astrology is real”) and therefore the honus is on you to provide evidence. And the saying holds true. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

                  And you cannot provide that because it does not exist.

                  Edit: I just had another thought about your initial claim… You said that it works “when done correctly.”

                  I’m wondering, how does one know if the astrology was done correctly aside from the prediction ending up being correct? So wouldn’t that be a tautology?

                  It would be like saying that, “if you flip a coin correctly, it will always end up on tails,” with the only measure of success being “it landed on tails, therefore you flipped it correctly.” Therefore, by definition, flipping a coin “correctly” has a 100% success rate.

                  Do you see how meaningless all of that is?

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                    9 days ago

                    It’s fairly futile to continue this as you clearly already made up your mind (hopefully after a thorough open minded exploration in the topic as science would like you to)

                    However

                    “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

                    You touch upon a key issue here: the extraordinary evidence is often extraordinarily personal, deeply vulnerable so not the stuff you can easily share. It works for me, and it helps me to see life clearer.

                    I like your coin toss analogy and I do understand there is plenty of astrology and horoscopes that have that vibe. And because of that I see that any prediction could be much more successful on Lemmy or Reddit by just omitting the astrology from the prediction. Or at least not lead with a screenshot of it.

                    The core of my prediction remains. A neo nazi, happening to sit on mountains of cash, freshly purchased the US presidency and with an affinity for the previous title holder of world’s most terrible human being.

                    The pieces are moving in place with the 19/4 protests which will probably be the biggest the USA has seen in a long while. They may turn violent. They may invoke a Marshall Law declaration.

                    The astrology is not the prediction. It simply shows that around that time is a cosmic fertile ground for these types of forces to clash and for a tension that has been building to be released one way or another. The astrology is not any astrology either. It’s from a Swiss company who has one of the highest reputations among astrologers, precisely because they are not predicting there will be Marshall Law, but outline the kind of energies which will exist around that time to enable an unexpected evolution such as the one outlined in the actual prediction.

                    Anyway, I’m sure none of that convinced you, but I’ll watching next weekend. This ride is not going to calm down, and hasn’t even gotten wild yet. Thanks for the civil discourse, despite our differences.

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              12 days ago

              I know Musk is a neo Nazi, that’s not new information, and couching that fact in astrology destroys the credibility of that fact.

              I did read your whole posted link and I’m still calling bullshit, because any time you invoke astrology, all credibility is out the window. This isn’t a “populist” opinion, this is a simple fact: astrology is a ancient system for applying humans’ overactive pattern regocognition, and correlating real world events to the movements of planetary objects against an arbitrary selections of stars.

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                11 days ago

                It doesn’t matter what you believe you don’t have to try and convince other people that you were right and other people

                I was merely using astrology to corroborate something that was already pointed out with an abundance of other really good arguments.

                To me you’re just a Muppet who will dismiss the discovery of a cure for cancer because the researcher said he found a cure of cancer on his birthday. Babies and bathwater and stuff

                If you think that the wealthy and the powerful of the world don’t use astrology to time their events, that’s when you lose all credibility with me.

                Thank you for taking in this discussion with me

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              11 days ago

              Astrology should be derided to an extent that it’s hard to even quantify. It sounds like conspiracy theory forums are more of your jam

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                11 days ago

                Don’t worry it gets downvoted there too.

                Hitler was an occultist and into numerology, so is Musk. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.

                This is the typical peasants fighting among themselves while they are steamrolling their Project 2025 in broad daylight.

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      12 days ago

      This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law.

      Just stop with this. You are basing this off astrology, as you pointed out in your other comment. I’m not saying there’s no chance it won’t happen, but spouting that opinion like it’s an informed fact with concrete evidence is dangerously close to misinformation.

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        12 days ago

        Lol, as I just pointed out in my other comment, you’re someone who sees a picture and jumps to conclusions. Don’t brigade and attempt to rob others who want to read the entire linked article.

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      11 days ago

      I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.

      In Germany, by 1934 the regime had publicly admitted murdering hundreds of their opponents without trial.
      And written a law after the fact which simply stated: “The measures taken on June 30, July 1 and 2, 1934 are lawful as state self-defense.”
      Germans knew.

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        11 days ago

        I agree. But I’m just wondering if they went to the butcher to get a bit of meat if they were a acknowledging that they were living under a dictatorial regime right now?

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          11 days ago

          Up until late 1944 or early 1945, most people basically just kept living their lives normally, while making some secret jokes about the regime, being annoyed by the constant air raid sirens, complaining about food shortages, actively looking away when their Jewish neighbors were arrested, and mourning their dead sons, yes.