• ahornsirup@feddit.org
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    Ah, yes. The Uyghur genocide: famously free of genocide.

    not that difficult to be better than slavery, genocide, war and colonialism

    Apparently it is, because other than constant wars China does all of those things.

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      The Uyghur genocide is better described as a cultural genocide, not a real genocide.

      It is still awful, still bad. But it doesn’t involve large scale murder and it doesn’t meet the criteria used to qualify as a legal genocide.

      In contrast, the Gaza genocide is definitely a genocide, as was the trail of tears.

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        Lol bro they are exterminating the Uyghurs faster than the palestinians. How is palestine a serious genocide by your standards if its been going on for 80 years with less results than 8 years in china?

        Trail of tears didn’t take 80 years. they exterminated the natives. Holocaust didn’t take 80 years. But isreals comitting the slowest moving genocide in history? While being constantly attacked?

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          Genocide is not just about numbers. If the Bosnian genocide qualifies as a genocide, then Gaza definitely qualifies too.

          In my view, the Gaza genocide is also worse than the Holocaust in many respects. For one, most Germans didn’t know about, or support, genocide, nor did the Nazi’s have any kind of democratic mandate.

          Whereas in the US and Israel, this is the first time a democracy is committing genocide with popular support.

          By all accounts, China isn’t killing Uyghurs, but re-educating them.

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        The comment said point blank that China does slavery and colonialism. For wars, they refer to recent history and that’s largely accurate in recent history (at least directly, indirectly they supply and offset Russian military presence), they haven’t used direct military force to get what they want yet. Largely because people would just give them pretty much whatever they wanted for economic considerations. Biggest potential place for things to boil over directly would be if they finally went into Taiwan.