• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    I’ve seen people defending Russia in their invasion of Ukraine. Russia is under authoritarian control, so I’d qualify them as tankie.

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      5 days ago

      No you haven’t.

      You have seen people who are against US imperialism having a wide set of opinions on the conflict. But no communists support Putin. He’s a fascist reactionary.

      You only think that because you’ve never engaged with them and because you’re not used to having nuance in conversations

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        You have seen people who are against US imperialism having a wide set of opinions on the conflict. But no communists support Putin. He’s a bigoted reactionary.

        Lol, no true scottsman much? I’ve looked through histories on some of the people I’ve run into, and their history says they are. Honestly, you may as well be saying

        ‘Sure they say they’re communist, express communist beliefs, read communist literature and engage in long, drawn out conversations regarding communist praxis, but they support Putin so they’re not really a communist.’

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          Then I’ll ask you the same:

          Show me links of these alleged Putin-loving communists. I’ve already been waiting for house lol

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            This thread has been inundated with links to the commenters. Maybe you could take umbridge with the use of the word “communist”, but largely that’s a label they assert for themselves, and most criticism of them ignores the communist part, since that doesn’t even in theory align with Russia, and is beside the point even for China.

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            Why would I bother linking more shit for you when you’re already *crickets* against the shit that’s already been linked? You’re hot on the draw to respond to me without a link, but awfully quiet to those who linked you what you wanted, why don’t you go talk to them? Or would you rather engage with what you think is going to be the easy dunk lol?

            If you’re not going to respond to people who have already done the shit you asked, why should I bother to waste more time when you appear to be participating in bad faith?

            Tankies are a joke, and it stopped being funny years ago.

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              That’s a lot of words to say nothing and link no sources to the only claim you made so far…

              And you can’t because, just like everyone else, you’re making it the fuck up.

              I’m so done engaging with people like you

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                This is why y’all are a joke. There are two links that link to tankies being tankies, but you gotta hold onto your ego instead of clicking a link.

                I’m so done engaging with people like you

                Because you fucking can’t. Intellectual honesty is something you’ve only read about LOL

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        Russia and Putin are no more communist than the US. Occam’s razor is that if a communist supports Russia, they are not a tankie, they are a complete idiot.

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        5 days ago

        Sure ‘no true Scotsman’. I’ve seen people who claim to be communists support Putin. I’ve engaged with them for hours and hours, but needed to stop for mental health reasons.