They are literally undermining human rights, including the rights of LGBTQ people. You do know that Russia is one of the harshest places for LGBTQ people. It’s literally illegal to display pride symbols in any way. Also Russia started the war in Ukraine, they literally attacked and decided to occupy a sovern country. China is probably one of the most censorship heavy countries on earth and has suppressed acts of violence like the Tienanmen Square Massacre. How can anyone support countries like this WTF?

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    Yeah, I got questions about Tienanmen, but not the same ones. Like was the CIA involved in the counter protest outside the school campus?

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      Queerphobia is slightly less of a problem in China than in Russia but it is harder for LGBTQ people there, especially trans people to get affirming care.

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          Tell me about them Pride parades and gender clinics in Russia. If I’m such a liar and these countries are such a bastion of LGBTQ rights tell me about how Russia affirms and protects LGBTQ people. So far it seems they’ve banned people from talking about it or displaying symbols of it, and they make it very hard to access treatment, plus there’s a fair amount of social stigma and violence.

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        Harder? Being queer and unhoused can be pretty damn bad in the states. In China your boss might discriminate but you don’t have to worry about being homeless.

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          A core tenet of Liberalism is that money/income is exempt from moralistic judgement. A country that lets their poor suffer homelessness isn’t ‘bad’; a country that doesn’t have Gay Pride marches is.

          It’s how they pinkwash countries like Israel and the USA

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        And it was much harder in the 90s in the US than it is now. Gay bashing was still pretty common. Change takes time. The direction of change is at least as important. It’s obvious that Russia and China are changing in diametrically opposite direction from one another. Go on see for yourself on Red Note, plenty of gay and lesbian content there.