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but … but what about human lefts?
‘Um what about the bad thing america did?? Are you saying that’s okay?! You capitalist nazi!’
Speaking of CIA, I sometimes wonder if MKULTRA V2 was ever done and more successfully. Possibly used on people like Fetterman to help serve billionaire backer interests.
I feel like this meme makes more sense if instead of “Tankies”, the character is labeled “Democrats”.
As in Democratic party or as in anti authoritarian?
Ooops, sorry just saw your instance. It’s now clear.
Glad you can turn your brain off so quickly. I bet it helps you sleep. I mean it as: who is an actual greater opponent in reality to “leftists who care about human rights”: online “tankies” or Democrats who literally threw an election to Trump, in part over their refusal to stop actively supporting a genocide? Reassess who your real enemies are, and prioritize your battles based on what is actually happening in the world.
I guess greater threat are the tankies currently supporting genocide that sided with Trump for that.
Hey look, you’re the Democrat in my version of the meme!
OK? Not sure if I’m supposed to fell insulted when you support Daddy Putin, current best ally of Trump. You don’t care about human rights. “West bad” is the only thing your single shared brain cell can say, everything else is an excuse.
You forgot to turn your brain back on.
Ok, nobody from ml or grad yet.
I’m currently on .ml. is it bad? I joined because there seemed to be a lot of people.
It’s a bad look, but not extremely so IMO.
I’ve clocked less than a month here, I’m going to need it explained. Is it hard leaning politically? Overzealous with its censorship?
world defederates grad. I did see one on the ml version of this post though.
If my instance is not federated with ml, then I don’t see them at all anywhere?
I tried blocking their instances, but I still have to suffer them (even here). I an open to move instances if I can stop seeing those genocidals
I remember .ml once unbanned someone, and then rebanned them, so that a post they made would federate to them.
That seems weird and also slightly on the abusive side, literally unbanning and rebanning just to make a post come through.
Tankies fr just the worst, they’re the number one downside to Lemmy.
Yeah I agree, tankies are the worst. Fuck tankies!
All my homies hate tankies.
If you’re going to be a radical leftist, be the “liberalism has betrayed the working class” instead of “daddy Stalin’s cum tastes nice 🥵”.
I gotta ask, what exactly is the difference between the Obama “Dronestrikes On Arabs Is Never Wrong” Dickrider Liberal and the Stalinist “driving over Hungarian fascists with your tank is cool af, aktuly” Leftist?
Because I hear a lot about these Far-Left Tankies. But then I see Western so-called Progressives flood their shorts every time we sodomize leadership in Libya with a rusty knife or carpet bomb hospitals in Gaza or unleash another wave of hack mercenaries on Venezuela. Hell, even MacArthur’s saturation bombing of the Korean Peninsula gets love. Does anyone actually oppose foreign military interventionism? Or is it just taboo when a leftist military leader does it?
Does anyone actually oppose foreign military interventionism?
…Why would you? That’s the right thing to do sometimes. We could have totally stayed on the sidelines in WWII in Europe, and only gone to war in the Pacific, because that shit was absolutely not our problem, right?
We should, for instance, be intervening in Myanmar, and in Rojava. We should be protecting the Kurds–esp. since we said we would–from Syria and Turkiye. We should be helping the rebels in Myanmar, since they’re just trying to get basic human rights from a dictatorial military regime.
Does that mean that the US is perfect? Absofuckinglutely no. Not even close. Is capitalism great? Nope. Is authoritarian communism better? LOL, no.
Does that mean that the US is perfect?
This appears to be the root of it. America gets some sort of ideological benefit-of-the-doubt, such that My Lai Massacres and engineered famines in Cuba and Korea and blacksite prisons that use genital mutilation to extract confessions are degrees shy of perfection rather than war crimes, atrocities, and holocausts.
Is authoritarian communism better? LOL, no.
Is your problem with the authoritarianism or the communism?
“The very concept of “revolutionary violence” is somewhat falsely cast, since most of the violence comes from those who attempt to prevent reform, not from those struggling for reform. By focusing on the violent rebellions of the downtrodden, we overlook the much greater repressive force and violence utilized by the ruling oligarchs to maintain the status quo, including armed attacks against peaceful demonstrations, mass arrests, torture, destruction of opposition organizations, suppression of dissident publications, death squad assassinations, the extermination of whole villages, and the like.”
― Michael Parenti, Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
The first group actually doesn’t really exist AND the group that gets assigned to that category tends to agree that extrajudicial air strikes are bad.
If the first group actually existed in the way they get categorized and imagined they’d be equally as bad, if not worse for being that dumb in a society where they are “allowed” to know better and think differently, vocally.
The first group absolutely fucking exists, gets power, and gets defended by most liberals. The fuck are you talking about?
I’m 90% sure it first said “Obama ~~ leftist” before being edited to liberal, which was what I’m commenting on.
The “liberal” in the USA is not a leftist in the same way a Tankie isn’t.
Okay well in that case yeah of course. Sorry for being harsh but I’ve seen so much war apologia from liberals lately I’m on edge
The concept of Liberalism is literally the same as supporting human rights.
The two of you swapped your L’s
“Liberalism” is the right-wing one the OP meant, “liberalism” is the overarching concept that is more commonly called “leftism” these days because of the whole “a party called the Liberals existed and were right wing” thing
Analyzing the image, the color depth, the level of detail, the overall quality, I’m pretty sure this meme is CIA funded. Don’t know how else you could finance it.
I’m pretty sure this meme is CIA funded.
I mean, you joke. But the number of “If you criticize the American Police State, you’re a violent bully” posts on every corner of the internet from accounts with those procedurally generated 4-digit suffixes is a wee bit sus.
You see the same shit from anti-Luigi memes, anti-piracy memes, and anti-Linux memes. They just aren’t well received.
Yea I mean don’t you guys get the nice CIA , comrade XI pays us handsomely. Or at least so I’ve heard
Obviously those are military grade pixels.
There are only two places in the world that can make that specific shade of red: Kodak Labs and the CIA.
Yeah, no way else one could fund a meme like this. There totally aren’t Free image editors out there that let you put text on a stock image.
Nice one
Wish the tankies were less coping about human right failures but instead learning to improve from studying them, but I guess the global world order against communism is causing everyone to be their enemy so it’s only normal
The anticommunism crowd is weaker than its ever been, the problem is Tankies don’t support any real communism just dictatorship.
There are two issues with human rights.
One is selective enforcement. There are a long list of countries with abysmal human rights records, but it’s too strategically convenient or economically essential to look the other way. Whrn was the last time they made a fuss about Jamal Khashoggi? Human rights only gets invoked when sabre-rattling is useful, not as a solid and consistent moral framework.
The other is that it’s a “luxury product”. Can every country support a modern human-rights model, or does it require a certain level of economic and political stability? It’s hard to maintain rule of law amid active insurgency, or if you can’t even deploy the bureaucratic state. Once you’ve gotten past that threshold, will both leaders and the broader population be eager to switch from the system that got them where they are? You’ve got to convince people that being able to write an anti-government op-ed is more important than security, or the price of eggs. This is a long term soft sell: berating countries for not measuring up to Western standards isn’t going to get them to make that choice any faster.
You have a point, i wonder if Russia could have industrialised as fast if it didn’t make use of every labor and resources present
Not to mention that communist societies have been scrutinized, down to every atom, especially because it contrasts fully with capitalism
My personal belief is better reform than revolution, but with an imperialist power like USA and maybe even Russia and China if you count them it is essentially impossible.
but with an imperialist power like USA and maybe even Russia and China if you count them
It would be silly to discount Russia and China’s imperialism. They’re both on the level of the US, they just lack the power projection to be as bad as the US. But the actions they’ve taken with the level of power projection they have show that fact.
Starting to feel like you also have “lefties” that want progressive policies and don’t give a shit about the working class
Ah, yes, progressive policies like free healthcare, increased minimum wage and wealth taxes don’t matter to the working class.
Unfortunately the right has spent an incredible amount time and money making LGBTQ, DEI, and other “woke” issues the focus of the conversation around progressive politics. It’s gotten to the point where anyone who supports broad application of civil rights has to spend all of their time and energy defending that support leaving no time or energy to pronote their economic policies like improved working conditions, better healthcare, or accessible child care.
It’s a flood the zone strategy that has worked incredibly well. Particularly in purple districts where Democratic representatives that barely won thier districts see no path to reelection if they continue to support “woke” issues.
They’re at the point where it’s abandon some social issues and get reelected so they can champion economic issues, or continue to support social issues and lose their seat to a Republican who won’t do either. Unfortunately in the real world their are people that have different opinions than ours and so elected officials have to pick their battles.
Progressive policies are by definition in support of the “working class.” Which is a much bigger class than most blue collar workers think.
Lol, LMAO even, I’m getting my popcorn! 🍿🍿
Waiting for the ML trolls to come out of the woodwork complaining about how I’m evil or whatever
Lol it’s already happening, yay for fresh tags xD
