Science does not seek to argue against religion, it seeks nothing, it’s just a word to describe a system for finding truth if that’s what you’re after.
That is what I said, yes. Glad we’re on the same page.
So the reason you’re seeing people using science to attack religion
The thing we both agreed science is not meant for. Go on.
is because YOU STARTED IT BY EQUATING THEM.
The meme was equating them. I pointed out the pointlessness of that.
you are approaching from a dense mindset that science is a “group” actively out trying to fight religion
Strange, I am seeing so many replies treating Religion as a “group” actively out to fight science. Can we agree that both of these are wrong?
it’s because this is a tired trope
Science and religion have nothing in common is a tried trope? Because a lot of the response I’m getting seem the think they have something in common and anything relevant to say about one another.
You don’t need religion
Never said you did.
religion says you need it and it actively tries to attack other systems for understanding the world
And here we go treating Religion as a “group” again. I thought that was bad? Or is it only bad if you think someone is doing that to Science?
science broadly wouldn’t care one way or another if it disappeared tomorrow or if more people started believing in God
I agree. That’s what I’ve been saying. What are you arguing with specifically?
I cannot fathom why you’re being so self-contradictory in your efforts here.
What contradictions? You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I have been arguing for religion at some point. I have done no such thing. I have simply said “arguing science vs religion makes no sense and is a waste of time” and for some reason you assumed that meant I must be arguing for religion when I have done no such thing.(Other than pointing out religion is not a monolithic group I suppose. Pointing out the flaws in a claim is hardly the same arguing for the opposing viewpoints)
And here we go treating Religion as a “group” again. I thought that was bad? Or is it only bad if you think someone is doing that to Science?
Jesus fucking christ, religion IS a group, it is an organized group seeking political power and social control. Science is a tool for finding truth.
I don’t get how you can pretend to have this neutral position and still make weird defenses like this. It’s dishonest. You are lying about what you’re trying to communicate here and I cannot stand dishonesty so we’re done.
I am done trying to pick apart who or what you’re actually condemning, I highly encourage you to re-read how you opened this fucking thread and what everyone’s pushback has been about and understand your failures to communicate, make this a learning experience.
That is what I said, yes. Glad we’re on the same page.
The thing we both agreed science is not meant for. Go on.
The meme was equating them. I pointed out the pointlessness of that.
Strange, I am seeing so many replies treating Religion as a “group” actively out to fight science. Can we agree that both of these are wrong?
Science and religion have nothing in common is a tried trope? Because a lot of the response I’m getting seem the think they have something in common and anything relevant to say about one another.
Never said you did.
And here we go treating Religion as a “group” again. I thought that was bad? Or is it only bad if you think someone is doing that to Science?
I agree. That’s what I’ve been saying. What are you arguing with specifically?
What contradictions? You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I have been arguing for religion at some point. I have done no such thing. I have simply said “arguing science vs religion makes no sense and is a waste of time” and for some reason you assumed that meant I must be arguing for religion when I have done no such thing.(Other than pointing out religion is not a monolithic group I suppose. Pointing out the flaws in a claim is hardly the same arguing for the opposing viewpoints)
Jesus fucking christ, religion IS a group, it is an organized group seeking political power and social control. Science is a tool for finding truth.
I don’t get how you can pretend to have this neutral position and still make weird defenses like this. It’s dishonest. You are lying about what you’re trying to communicate here and I cannot stand dishonesty so we’re done.
I am done trying to pick apart who or what you’re actually condemning, I highly encourage you to re-read how you opened this fucking thread and what everyone’s pushback has been about and understand your failures to communicate, make this a learning experience.