• glorkon@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Religion has no reason to argue with science,

    Well, that sounds good on paper. It would be nice if over the centuries, religion wouldn’t have ceaselessly attacked and persecuted scientists. If religion was “only philosophy”, there wouldn’t be so many religious zealots not only denying but actively trying to ban the teaching of evolution at schools. Nope… religion is anti-science. It has to be, because science is the one thing that has gradually taken away religion’s authority over the minds of people. Religion is a mind virus, science is the cure.

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      Again, there are plenty of scientist who follow one religion or another:

      According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power

      https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

      It doesn’t make sense to claim religion is by default anti-science when scientists are just as likely to be religious as not. If religion was as anti-Science as you claim then no scientists would be religious.

      People who don’t understand science or religion are anti-science, and they use religion as an excuse.

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        2 days ago

        Citing a study about science in the USA, a very religious country, as if that in any way reflected the world of science as a whole… well, okay then.

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            1 day ago

            You committed a logical fallacy, were called out on it and now you try to pretend it didn’t happen. Talking to you is futile.

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              What logical fallacy? The fact that the US is a very religious study doesn’t change the fact that they have scientists that are religious. If religion was anti-science then you wouldn’t have scientists that are religious, regardless of how religious the country is.

              You’re the one committing the fallacy. How religious the the country is has no barring on the argument presented.

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                10 hours ago

                You presented the world of US science as the whole world of science. You pretended just because in America, 50% of scientists are religious, that would mean 50% of scientists in the entire world are religious, which is far from the truth. And you still refuse to accept that this renders your whole argument baseless. So stop wasting my time.

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                  You presented the argument that “religion has to be anti-science”. Finding a non-insignificant number of scientists that are religious disproves that. It does not matter where they came from, but here’s another study that polls 8 different countries:

                  https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023116664353

                  The lowest % that identifies with some religious affiliation is France at 30%. That’s significantly more than the 0% one would expect from your statement “Religion has to be anti-science” because if it was all religion that was anti-science you wouldn’t find any overlap at all.