Cars are expensive and attacking people who worked hard to get what they once thought was the option in the market is counterproductive.
I’m all for this on the dealerships but a lot of people can’t afford to just sell their vehicle, some can’t afford normal maintenance expenses, on a vehicle that is likely heavily financed.
I mean, all out for cybertrucks and the other arseholes that are now aware of who Musk really is and what a fraud Tesla as a brand is but indiscriminately attacking ALL Teslas could be hurting vulnerable people that aren’t in the financial situation to dispose of their car.
Finally! I’ve been saying this multiple times and I get a lot of hate for it. Tesla owners are dehumanised at a rapid speed. I laugh so hard about LedByDonkeys actions and other groups, but attacking Tesla owners isn’t the way. (And no I don’t have, ever had a Tesla)
To quote freely from the kangaroo:“why is the left so much worse than the right? - The left burns cars, the right burns foreigners. I own a car, but I don’t own a foreigner“
This is a boring take. Everyone to the center left has tried extensively to talk through why what’s happening is bad, wrong, awful, stupid, in all the best faith ways there is to literally deaf ears. Every word is intentionally misunderstood and weaponized for further propaganda. Speech has been watered down by a torrent of others saying nothing and nonsense.
Tesla has been steadily declining with every action Elon takes. Trade-ins exist, they’ve been viable for years. If they’ve had them for awhile, they bought them when they were considered cutting edge. Who is buying bleeding edge tech while being financially unable to trade it in for something else from then to now?
Talking has produced nothing, warranting action. Elon has been steadily descending into madness for all to see, it’s no secret and it wasn’t fast. Those who still have them and those that buy them even now do so willingly. Ignorance at this stage is not an excuse. These people aren’t vulnerable any more than someone who buys a pair of Yeezy shoes. “What if they can’t afford another pair??” Brother stop.
But still, this isn’t targeting Elon, it’s targeting people. It’s a strategy of the powerful to make people fight each other instead of them. It’s funny, but very inefficient. Do something that actually targets the regime.
Not who you asked, but I would happily give anyone the benefit of the doubt about having any sense of who Musk really is who bought their car before Musk bought twitter in 2023.
Exceptions to every rule. Why haven’t you, since learning this, attempted to trade it in? I understand not being able to get an entirely new car from zero but Tesla has kept it’s value until very recently. Why hold it?
My brother their stock only recently started dropping due to hard boycots and vandalism, they’ve had value for years. This was not recent. What dealership refused a Tesla trade in?
Even if you trade in, you aren’t leaving with a different car without a higher monthly payment unless you take a major downgrade in automobile. A lot of people can’t afford a higher payment right now.
I’ve only ever traded in a vehicle I’ve fully paid off and the money that would have been handed to me for that trade goes towards the down payment of the new vehicle.
Assuming the vehicle was bought prior to people being aware Musk was Trump aligned (about when he bought Twitter), most vehicles would be mostly paid off if not fully.
I have to reiterate though that if someone can’t afford a vehicle due to a change in circumstances, trading it in for a cheaper vehicle is a pretty common sense decision. You aren’t paying off a vehicle that’s no longer in your possession.
I hear ads on the radio that polestar is giving 20k trade in for your Tesla. Idk their financing options so they might still be expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if other electric car makers will give similar incentive to switch brands.
Destroying a random man’s tesla is not action. Action is going to your congress man’s door and showing them you mean business when you torch their car. Torching a random guy’s car (who’s probably left of center, given they’re driving electric) is counterproductive.
Really? Tesla seems to be pretty undesirable right now being targets for vandalism. Vandalism inspired by a majority shareholder practicing facism openly. Congress is doing nothing, it’s majority Republican, they will take no action against Trump. It’s a complete waste of time.
Again, if you still have a Tesla now, you are not center left. Everyone’s had the chance to trade it in prior to the stocks diving, right now it’s a conscious choice. It’s not “some poor, random citizen” it’s a Musk supporter. Full stop.
Furthermore, he’s Trump’s boyfriend, even got him to do a Tesla commercial on the Whitehouse lawn. Electric cars are for the right too now!
You assume so much of other’s people’s lives. It must be easy to live like that, huh? Is it so hard to imagine that other people live different lives and may not have had the ability or desire to trade it in? Too bad for them, I guess.
You can have your opinions, but attacking cars of people who are not involved in making decisions that matter is nonsensical and short-sighted at best.
Where’s the assumption? If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling. Buying one of the first EVs is not a “I’m broke” decision the same as buying luxury shoes.
Your position is that in the last five or so years someone could have zero ability to trade in their brand new Tesla? Use common sense, I implore you. Obviously there are outliers but no, most people had the chance.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense. Support of fascism should be met with escalating resistance. We’ve had years to discuss it, yet here we are.
Fredthefishlord made some great points. Your timeline is completely off and unrealistic. The major controversies surrounding Musk have only really come to light in the past couple years. Before that, buying a Tesla was seen as a green, eco-friendly option with newer technology. Expecting people to trade in their Tesla immediately, or even within a year or so, is just unrealistic.
Second, financing exists. Not everyone who buys a nice car is well off or in a position to trade it in, and even if they are, that doesn’t mean it’s the best option for them. Trade-ins still usually require a deposit if you want something equally beneficial. Not everyone can afford that, especially with how recent all of this is. You act like this was some long-term open secret when in reality a lot of people bought their cars before any of this was common knowledge.
You argue like a Republican. You ignore the actual points made just so you can keep pushing this closed-minded idea that everyone should see everything exactly as you do and act at the exact pace you expect. If they don’t, they deserve to be attacked and have their car destroyed, even if it’s their only way to work and make the money they’d need to replace it. That’s absurd.
This is just selfish and short-sighted. “They don’t think like me so attack them until they do” is not activism, it’s just stupidity. You’re advocating for harming random people (yes harming people’s method of travel/income is harming their livelihood) who might not even support Musk, just because you assume they do. At best you’re wasting energy. At worst you’re hurting people who don’t deserve it.
Right like anybody is going to come to a different conclusion that they actually can afford to get a different car just because one guy on the Internet says so. Dumping a perfectly working vehicle just because the brand personality of the make no longer fits your ideal self is fiscally irresponsible.
People can lose their jobs after buying something. People can stretch beyond their means to buy something.
Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.
brand new Tesla?
If it’s used it’s by definition not brand new lol. 5 years has not been recent enough to realize musk is a Nazi. Closer to around 2 more realistic. Maybe 1 even.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense.
That’s not a Republican argument.
Trading a car in is a big decision if you aren’t rich, especially if it’s your first newer car.
Cars are expensive and attacking people who worked hard to get what they once thought was the option in the market is counterproductive.
I’m all for this on the dealerships but a lot of people can’t afford to just sell their vehicle, some can’t afford normal maintenance expenses, on a vehicle that is likely heavily financed.
I mean, all out for cybertrucks and the other arseholes that are now aware of who Musk really is and what a fraud Tesla as a brand is but indiscriminately attacking ALL Teslas could be hurting vulnerable people that aren’t in the financial situation to dispose of their car.
Finally! I’ve been saying this multiple times and I get a lot of hate for it. Tesla owners are dehumanised at a rapid speed. I laugh so hard about LedByDonkeys actions and other groups, but attacking Tesla owners isn’t the way. (And no I don’t have, ever had a Tesla)
“Vulnerable people” could never afford Teslas, even before everyone realized Elon was a douchebag.
I know several people who are struggling who bought used Teslas so they could use them for Uber gigs.
You can argue that was not a smart idea and I’d agree. But vulnerable people are just people, and people are not always effective strategists.
I was waiting for the inevitable hand wringing “direct action bad” comment.
To quote freely from the kangaroo:“why is the left so much worse than the right? - The left burns cars, the right burns foreigners. I own a car, but I don’t own a foreigner“
Boo hoo. Supporting a Nazi should be financial suicide. Unless the car is a 2015 or before, the emerald mine owners son has been a piece of shit.
Sell the Tesla cars for scraps? At least the disillusioned owners would get something.
Turn the car panels into pans. Something stainless steel is actually good for.
This is a boring take. Everyone to the center left has tried extensively to talk through why what’s happening is bad, wrong, awful, stupid, in all the best faith ways there is to literally deaf ears. Every word is intentionally misunderstood and weaponized for further propaganda. Speech has been watered down by a torrent of others saying nothing and nonsense.
Tesla has been steadily declining with every action Elon takes. Trade-ins exist, they’ve been viable for years. If they’ve had them for awhile, they bought them when they were considered cutting edge. Who is buying bleeding edge tech while being financially unable to trade it in for something else from then to now?
Talking has produced nothing, warranting action. Elon has been steadily descending into madness for all to see, it’s no secret and it wasn’t fast. Those who still have them and those that buy them even now do so willingly. Ignorance at this stage is not an excuse. These people aren’t vulnerable any more than someone who buys a pair of Yeezy shoes. “What if they can’t afford another pair??” Brother stop.
But still, this isn’t targeting Elon, it’s targeting people. It’s a strategy of the powerful to make people fight each other instead of them. It’s funny, but very inefficient. Do something that actually targets the regime.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi. I cannot afford to just get rid of it. Anybody damaging my car is not helping the cause.
when was that?
Not who you asked, but I would happily give anyone the benefit of the doubt about having any sense of who Musk really is who bought their car before Musk bought twitter in 2023.
Exceptions to every rule. Why haven’t you, since learning this, attempted to trade it in? I understand not being able to get an entirely new car from zero but Tesla has kept it’s value until very recently. Why hold it?
Ben Shaprio take
No one wants to buy one. Who will they trade with? What dealership is buying these for anything reasonable?
My brother their stock only recently started dropping due to hard boycots and vandalism, they’ve had value for years. This was not recent. What dealership refused a Tesla trade in?
Even if you trade in, you aren’t leaving with a different car without a higher monthly payment unless you take a major downgrade in automobile. A lot of people can’t afford a higher payment right now.
I’ve only ever traded in a vehicle I’ve fully paid off and the money that would have been handed to me for that trade goes towards the down payment of the new vehicle.
Assuming the vehicle was bought prior to people being aware Musk was Trump aligned (about when he bought Twitter), most vehicles would be mostly paid off if not fully.
I have to reiterate though that if someone can’t afford a vehicle due to a change in circumstances, trading it in for a cheaper vehicle is a pretty common sense decision. You aren’t paying off a vehicle that’s no longer in your possession.
I hear ads on the radio that polestar is giving 20k trade in for your Tesla. Idk their financing options so they might still be expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if other electric car makers will give similar incentive to switch brands.
Destroying a random man’s tesla is not action. Action is going to your congress man’s door and showing them you mean business when you torch their car. Torching a random guy’s car (who’s probably left of center, given they’re driving electric) is counterproductive.
Really? Tesla seems to be pretty undesirable right now being targets for vandalism. Vandalism inspired by a majority shareholder practicing facism openly. Congress is doing nothing, it’s majority Republican, they will take no action against Trump. It’s a complete waste of time.
Again, if you still have a Tesla now, you are not center left. Everyone’s had the chance to trade it in prior to the stocks diving, right now it’s a conscious choice. It’s not “some poor, random citizen” it’s a Musk supporter. Full stop.
Furthermore, he’s Trump’s boyfriend, even got him to do a Tesla commercial on the Whitehouse lawn. Electric cars are for the right too now!
You assume so much of other’s people’s lives. It must be easy to live like that, huh? Is it so hard to imagine that other people live different lives and may not have had the ability or desire to trade it in? Too bad for them, I guess.
You can have your opinions, but attacking cars of people who are not involved in making decisions that matter is nonsensical and short-sighted at best.
Where’s the assumption? If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling. Buying one of the first EVs is not a “I’m broke” decision the same as buying luxury shoes. Your position is that in the last five or so years someone could have zero ability to trade in their brand new Tesla? Use common sense, I implore you. Obviously there are outliers but no, most people had the chance.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense. Support of fascism should be met with escalating resistance. We’ve had years to discuss it, yet here we are.
Fredthefishlord made some great points. Your timeline is completely off and unrealistic. The major controversies surrounding Musk have only really come to light in the past couple years. Before that, buying a Tesla was seen as a green, eco-friendly option with newer technology. Expecting people to trade in their Tesla immediately, or even within a year or so, is just unrealistic.
Second, financing exists. Not everyone who buys a nice car is well off or in a position to trade it in, and even if they are, that doesn’t mean it’s the best option for them. Trade-ins still usually require a deposit if you want something equally beneficial. Not everyone can afford that, especially with how recent all of this is. You act like this was some long-term open secret when in reality a lot of people bought their cars before any of this was common knowledge.
You argue like a Republican. You ignore the actual points made just so you can keep pushing this closed-minded idea that everyone should see everything exactly as you do and act at the exact pace you expect. If they don’t, they deserve to be attacked and have their car destroyed, even if it’s their only way to work and make the money they’d need to replace it. That’s absurd.
This is just selfish and short-sighted. “They don’t think like me so attack them until they do” is not activism, it’s just stupidity. You’re advocating for harming random people (yes harming people’s method of travel/income is harming their livelihood) who might not even support Musk, just because you assume they do. At best you’re wasting energy. At worst you’re hurting people who don’t deserve it.
Right like anybody is going to come to a different conclusion that they actually can afford to get a different car just because one guy on the Internet says so. Dumping a perfectly working vehicle just because the brand personality of the make no longer fits your ideal self is fiscally irresponsible.
People can lose their jobs after buying something. People can stretch beyond their means to buy something.
Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.
If it’s used it’s by definition not brand new lol. 5 years has not been recent enough to realize musk is a Nazi. Closer to around 2 more realistic. Maybe 1 even.
That’s not a Republican argument.
Trading a car in is a big decision if you aren’t rich, especially if it’s your first newer car.