US stocks were sharply lower Friday as investors digested souring consumer sentiment and inflation data that showed an uptick in one of the Federal Reserve’s key gauges, underscoring the delicate state of the economy as businesses brace for President Donald Trump’s tariffs.

The Dow tumbled 750 points, or 1.77%, on Friday. The broader S&P 500 fell 2.1% and the Nasdaq Composite slid 2.8%.

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Wall Street was also grappling with Trump’s announcement on Wednesday of 25% tariffs on all cars shipped into the US, set to go into effect April 3. Trump also announced tariffs on car parts like engines and transmissions, set to take effect “no later than May 3,” according to the proclamation he signed.

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    5 days ago

    Timing the exact top and bottom is impossible, but you can always sell at an all-time high

    An all-time high? So on point over the prior record and you sell?

    and buy at a 52 week low.

    I’m not understanding your strategy here. What are you accomplishing by putting your money back into the market at the dollar figure equal to the lowest value in the last year (52 weeks)? Especially if you sold at one point over the prior record (the all time high) you could be out of the market for years while stocks are on a rapid increase. The last 2 years of the S&P500 were both north of 23% returns back to back. Using your method you would have sold sometime in 2022 losing all those HUGE gains.

    What if the recover occurs prior to stocks ever hitting the 52 week low? You’d still be out of the market and will have missed the recovery.

    Personally, I find it more effective for myself if I frame it in terms of “owning the most shares” instead of “making the most dollars”.

    If I started with 100 shares and now have 200 shares, I consider that a win, even if the 200 shares together are worth less than the 100 shares were at one time.

    This confuses me even more. Number of shares is completely irrelevant. Stock splits double shares (and half values), a reverse stock split would double value (but half number of shares). I mean, if you’re just interested in number of shares, you do you, but most people use stocks as an investment vehicle where the value of those stocks is primary value (voting rights being a second value but most people don’t care about that).

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      If you can’t even understand that I am obviously not including things like stock splits, then I don’t think my comment was intended for you.

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        If you’re holding the opinion that simply the number of shares of something is more important that the total value of dollars those shares represent, I’m not sure who your audience is for your comment to be intended for.

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          My audience is people who are literate. You’re just reading stuff into my comments that a reasonable person wouldn’t.

          And that’s fine, you do your investment strategy. I’m happy with mine.

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            Go back and read our exchange. You wrote your position. I communicated my confusion with what I read of your position. You’ve done nothing to explain further what is wrong with how I explained how I understood your position except to say essentially “not that way”. You have yet to provide any more information for me to understand what your way actually is.

            I’m not upset with you or your position, I’m genuinely confused. I’m happy to be corrected with my understanding of your position, but you’ve offered none. How else am I supposed to understand you? Just guess more and have you tell me “not that way” more? If you don’t want to talk about it more, thats fine too. I hope you have a great day.

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              I realize you are confused.

              You don’t appreciate that having 200 shares of a fund today, at today’s valuation, is better than having 100 shares of that same fund today.

              Because that’s the point I clearly made, which you ignored and constructed some kind of straw man on which you had your little Don Quixote party on.

              And if you really want to understand the philosophy, the point is to take profits prudently and buy bargains when they present themselves. And that’s very much possible without exactly timing the market.

              I have never sold at the top and never bought at the bottom. I have no crystal ball to time the market, but I have made a lot of profit buying low and selling high.

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                I appreciate you sharing more info on your approach. I think I have all the info I need to understand your position now. I hope you have a great day.