• Etterra@discuss.online
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    24 days ago

    So what this suggests to me is that zoomers are so up their own cell phones that they never bothered to learn how to use pepper computers. That almost funny. Mocking laughter is warring with weary head shaking in me.

  • mcforest@feddit.org
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    24 days ago

    I actually thought I am part of this blessed generation that can use a computer. But rotating a PDF? That beats me.

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        24 days ago

        Pointless?? Really? We should have just stuck with postscript? I’m pretty happy with pdf for almost anything as there’s a good chance it’ll render how whoever sent it to me was seeing it. What would you suggest/do different?

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        24 days ago

        10000 times better than the previously mainstream way which was people sending you office docs expecting you could open that shit.

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          24 days ago

          Yes, but not just that. Opening a document in Word is for the writer.

          A pet peeve of mine is when I’m sent a user guide as a Word document complete with squiggly lines under the words it doesn’t know.

          Even worse is when a colleague sends a document like that to a customer.

          PDF is a published file format, I find it hard to imagine a world where you could convince me downloading the user manual for my motherboard or downloading Lego assembly instructions should come as a word document.

          I bet this person thinks all raster images should be bitmaps. Sorry maybe that was too harsh.

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        24 days ago

        It’s good for sending documents you don’t want to be tampered with because most people don’t know how to edit a PDF.

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          24 days ago

          This. I care about graphic design and aesthetics. So when I send a document to a group for review, I’m not taking the risk of giving them something they could mess with.

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      24 days ago

      The real skillset isn’t necessarily knowing how to do these things off tbe top of your head, but knowing how to look them up.

      Perhaps the biggest obstacle for the next generation is how thoroughly Google has enshittified.

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        24 days ago

        Cobbling together four different online tutorials about a vague idea you think the damn program should do is the original “vibe programming”. I am looking at you Power Automate.

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        24 days ago

        Instructions unclear. I have a desktop PC and now my monitor arm is broken. My 38 inch screen fell on the floor. You’ll hear from my lawyers.

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        24 days ago

        Are you joking right now? I tried opening a pdf with Libre Draw recently but it didn’t work.

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          No sir or madame, I actually verified by hand before posting that exact comment because while I did recently use it to edit the contents of a pdf (increase contrast on hiking map for BW print), I haven’t that often and thus I wanted to find the rotate button myself to make sure I was giving legitimate advice :)

  • Nangijala@feddit.dk
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    24 days ago

    Can’t blame a generation that wasn’t raised on computers as well as you can’t blame a generation that was raised by algothrims. I’m a millennial too, one of the older ones, and I have felt my tech literacy decay over the past ten years as the cancer that is silicon valley has spread and dominated the internet. It is to the point that I feel so trapped when I try to do anything online that becoming passive feels like the only choice if you play their game.

    I have the benefit of remembering what the internet used to be like and what it still has the potential to be in the future, but the youths of today never experienced that. To them the internet is a feeding machine that encourages nay grooms them into becoming passive consumers. I can’t blame someone who literally never got the chance to learn because some tech bro scumbags in America decided that they should abuse their power to turn people into addicts.

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    24 days ago

    Are they the same generation whose parents said “they’re really good with computers …they go on the iPad all the time”?

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    23 days ago

    > be me
    > zoomer
    > use linux
    > i use linux
    > i don’t know how to use windows, or macos
    > i dont know how to use the most popular operating systems
    > wait > i am the joke now

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 days ago

    in today’s edition of “why are the kids I raised so damn incompetent?”

    i long for a day where people understand that it’s not the ipad kid’s fault they were given a tablet at age 2

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      That’s… part of it, but part of it is just ease of use. In growing up, I had to figure out issues with my computer,and getting games etc working took some work to do. I build a gaming PC for my nephew(under 10, but games a lot mobile and with consoles) and he played a few games on it, but then my sister (a gamer herself) said he couldn’t really get used to keyboard over controller (at which point I reminded her she could just get him a PC controller or use one of the console ones that also work on PC).

      He just seems to prefer to use things that are already intuitive, and since my childhood things have gotten much better in that regard for consoles and mobile stuff. You can definitely do it on PC as well, but it often means more accessories, sometimes figuring out issues . I got another sister of mine a controller for pc and it took a bit of effort getting it properly synced for the game she wanted to play. It would show up properly in the OS, but then the game he issues, so we had to switch through modes and such, and sometimes even though one mode may work an update or something may break it.

      I like using controllers for some games, and WASD for others, but even though IT is my job and I’m good at fixing things, some games have weird issues with some controllers, especially if they have mode options. All that extra fixing and finding the right settings is just frustrating for some, and with easy to use alternatives they may not bother to learn. I had no choice, just SNES and pc while growing up.

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      24 days ago

      No one taught me how to use a computer, I figured it out as I went. I had to tell my 25 year old brother that theres more than one USB port on the back of his computer because he only saw the one in the front and asked me where he plugs in the keyboard and mouse.

      Part of the issue for a lot of the older and younger crowd is “Well, it’s not immediately obvious, so therefore its impossible and now I’m mad at you for it.”

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    24 days ago

    IM TRYING MAN

    My 8 year old knows how to keyboard a little. I haven’t figured out if they’re gonna teach him in school or not, so I’m erring on the side of caution