• Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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    3 months ago

    No one is surprised by America indiscriminately bombing and leaving 150 casualties.

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    Hopefully this leadership is so incompetent that their stupidity like this gives some Ws to countries like Yemen. And by Ws I mean some of our terrorist in the sky dropping bombs instead drop into the ocean themselves. Kerplunk!

    Scoreboard!

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Zero surprise.

    The dems have always supported genocide very openly.

    These memes about the “leak” represent the only principles that they have - violent support for the procedures of the status quo.

  • answersplease77@lemmy.world
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    Kids have died but the chat leak was fuuny and that’s what has been the people talk about instead.

    Imagine being the poor family, who is stuck living in Yemen because they cannot afford to relocate, whose kid has died by Trump’s bombing. Then all you see in the news about how they joked with emojis in chat killing your kid. Then tell why the fuck you would grow up anything but radicalized.

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    That’s because anyone who has been paying attention to geopolitics over the last two years knows why the US is bombing Yemen…

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    They’re bombing the Houthi’s in Yemen because the Houthis have been launching Iranian missiles at ships in the Red Sea since 2023? Including the US navy (don’t touch the boats) and Israel. The houthis are currently holding hostage a number of crews of merchant ships

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    The Houthis, is a Zaydi Shia Islamist political and military organization that emerged from Yemen in the 1990s. It is predominantly made up of Zaydi Shias, with their namesake leadership being drawn largely from the Houthi tribe. The group has been a central player in Yemen’s civil war, drawing widespread international condemnation for its human rights abuses, including targeting civilians and using child soldiers. The Houthis are backed by Iran. The Houthis emerged as an opposition movement to Yemen president Ali Abdullah Saleh, whom they accused of corruption and being backed by Saudi Arabia and the United States.

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      3 months ago

      What lead them to be on position to be able to do such a thing?

      Who helped to stabilise the previous gov & infrastructure (hospitals) … and stopped overnight destabilising the country early pre-covid?

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            Not everyone’s boats, just the ones of countries supporting Israel. They’re not touching Chinese boats, Iranian boats, Turkish boats, etc.

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              Boats marked with a specific country are not strictly captained, crewed, or even owned by individuals from that country.

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                They aren’t targeting boats based on their flags, nor their captain, nor their crew, nor their ownership, but based on their connection to Israel.

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              They are targeting indiscriminately. You might hear otherwise from their statements, but the reality is they don’t seem to have capacity to distinguish

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        3 months ago

        That is a different topic not relevant for the current discission.

    • smol_beans@lemmy.world
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      Houthis did not reinstate slavery. The “legitimate” Yemeni government that the Houthis are rebelling against reinstituted slavery

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              Why do you assume that the US gov is more trustworthy than the Houthis? After all the horrible shit the US gov has done what will it take for you to stop believing it when it tells you that it’s the good guy and the people it’s fighting are the bad guys.

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                  It’s not because I personally hate America, the US has been helping israel commit a genocide for over a year, apparently that isn’t enough for you to question their statements but it is more than enough for me

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          From the US State Department report:

          Media reports referencing muhamasheen activists noted that while social castes and slavery were abolished in the 1960s, tribal justice systems reinforced historical patterns of discrimination. The most recent estimated number of victims of modern slavery in country remained the 2018 report by Walk Free, an NGO focused on ending modern slavery. Walk Free estimated there were 85,000 victims of modern slavery in the country, or 3.1 percent of the population, but that due to the impossibility of conducting surveys under conflict, data likely underestimated the problem. This broad category included forced labor and debt bondage, human trafficking, and forced and early marriage.

          This is the Walk Free report mentioned, it’s referencing modern-day slavery and how vulnerable the population of Yemen is, the main being political instability. That same article shows Saudi Arabia as having over 4 times per capita more modern day slaves.

          The only other article that mentions Slavery under the Houthis is Al-Awsat which is a state propaganda newspaper working at the behest of the Saudi Royal Family.

          There is no mention of slavery in the 2024 HRW Report Or 2023 Amnesty Report

          The Saudi puppet government that did institute slavery are what the Houthis fought and won against, and continue to face a US-Saudi genocide because of it. It’d certainly help to reduce modern day slavery if the entire population of Yemen wasn’t facing a genocide.

    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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      They’re not threatening global trade, they’re fulfilling their obligation under international law to prevent genocide by blocking ships of countries that are aiding genocide.

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The houthis aren’t exactly the best representatives of the movement but still, this issue would be better solved by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them to a ceasefire towards a permanent peace. The houthis have shown that they will stop there attacks when the bombs stop dropping on gaza with this last ceasefire.

      These strikes don’t do shit besides hardening the antagonism against the west in Yemen. Ask Saudi Arabia, you can’t take out the houthis with bombs. This is just a way for trump to flex his arms and act like a tough guy.

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          That doesn’t solve the issue, you blow up one terrorist and five civilians then the brothers/fathers of those five civilians become terrorists. The only thing blowing them up does, besides making the leaders and the people of the u.s. feel tough, is enrich the weapons industry.

          We bombed Afghanistan for more then a decade and the taliban still control Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia bombed the houthis for years and they now control Yemen, Israel has leveled gaza and hamas is still in control.

          YOU CANT BOMB AWAY TERRORISTS.

            • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              No, I’m proposing that we push our client state Israel to stop bombing gaza so the attacks will stop. That’s the only way to stop them from attacking us, because again, bombing them won’t stop them, it’ll just fuel further conflict.

              Also we arent being attacked, no one in u.s. territory has been harmed, ships in a war zone are being attacked. Are you proposing that we blow the hell out of anyone that killed an american in a war zone? Because Israel has killed American citizens in its war on gaza, so has hamas, should we just carpet bomb the whole area to show we mean business?

                • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Explain to me how Israel blowing up a food aid convoy is different then the houthis attacking merchant ships.

                  oh but that was an accident, they didn’t know the truck with there logo that reported there location to the idf was an aid truck. That’s not there stated policy to blow up aid trucks.

                  Israel has implemented a full blockade of Gaza since the ceasefire ended. So if an American tried to drive an aid truck across the Gaza border, Israel would blow it up. That’s currently just a threat, and they haven’t done that, but the houthis haven’t attacked a ship since the ceasefire, they only threatened to which is what prompted this strike.

                  Are all Yemeni rape happy slavery terrorists? Because these bombings are pretty indiscriminate, a majority of the people are civilians. This latest strike was on an apartment building, not some secret houthi military base. They killed a couple terrorist leaders that will be easily replaced, while killing substantially more civilians.

                  the average American does not hear about Americans being attacked abroad by terrorists who commit rape en mass, support genocide and have reintroduced slavery and think “we should give these people what they want”

                  All of those descriptors except for the slavery one apply to israel and half of Americans give them unequivocal support.

                  This isn’t just giving them what they want, the large majority of the world wants a ceasefire in gaza, look at the UN votes. If everyone in the world supports reducing pollution you don’t turn that around and say north Korea and the taliban want to reduce pollution, and we can’t let them get anything they want so we should pollute more. That’s the height of reactionary, oppositional politics that destroys any progress and solidarity.

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      They overthrew Gaddafi when he was the only thing preventing slavery from returning, and the allies of the West now have open slave markets in Libya.

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      The United States government just sold over 200 people, without trial, into slavery in El Salvador. And the US explicitly allows slavery as part of its own prison system. The US has a large number of legal slaves.

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        Yes, and how does that justify anything? I don’t understand this logic at all, the US being bad doesn’t make the Houthi slavers good. Slavery is wrong regardless of who does it.

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          It doesn’t justify anything. What it does do is point out the absurdity of arguing that the Huthis deserved to be bombed due to slavery. If they deserve to be bombed, so do we.

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        I don’t think people understand just how fucking MASSIVE that bullshit is. Any credibility that the US had in human rights is long gone.

        What turn is doing is what the original filibusters did prior to the civil war. Basically considering chattel slavery such an important part of their ‘liberty’ ideal that they wanted to spread it to places where slavery had been abolished. Like the carribbean and Central America.