No, quite literally you do. Then again you people tend to call anyone to the left of burning children alive tankies, so that doesn’t matter.
They’re not right wing, politically or otherwise. Just as a reminder the ussr was decades ahead of the us in terms of left wing cultural progress; promoting gender equality, racial equality, and religious equality. Yes, they turned authoritarian, because they didn’t want to be destroyed by the us; and hadn’t advanced enough to understand why mixed markets, i.e. dengism, was essential.
But building a nation from scraps while at war with an enemy with inexaustible resources tends to require authoritarianism, and will require some level of authoritarianism until the west is disarmed, economically and militarily.
Anyone that disagrees with that has no concept of how much destruction and chaos the us sowed among any nation that dared to self determine away from being a us slave state.
Parenti, in Blackshirt in Reds, covers this topic excellently. He does not gloss over the flaws and corruptions in the USSR, but he is realistic in giving a fair assessment of their successes in the midst of their failures. A big point being what you mentioned above: the USSR had to continue focusing production towards just being on even footing with the US in terms of defense, to protect against the very real threat of the US overthrowing the government as they were doing in so many other communist countries. At no time during the USSR’s existence were they ever not under attack by some outside force or another (the NAZIs, CIA, multi-national capitalist interests etc). Here’s a good quote talking about the Stalin era and progressive policies during that time:
During the years of Stalin’s reign, the Soviet nation made dramatic gains in literacy, industrial wages, health care, and women’s rights. These accomplishments usually go unmentioned when the Stalinist era is discussed. To say that “socialism didn’t work” is to ignore that it did. In Eastern Europe, Russia, China, Mongolia, North Korea, and Cuba, revolutionary communism created a life for the mass of people that was far better than the wretched existence they had endured under feudal lords, military bosses, foreign colonizers, and Western capitalists. The end result was a dramatic improvement in the living conditions for hundreds of millions of people on a scale never before or since witnessed in history.
Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism by Michael Parenti
Jesus christ I thought my post was firm enough but you’re still trying to argue. I never said shit about the US or the USSR and you’re spewing bullshit like I made an argument.
Reading over what you wrote in full, you’re either trolling or incapable of admitting fault. Either way, good luck to you.
Your tankie overlords are literally doing what you’re describing in Ukraine, South Africa, all over the middle east, right fucking now and you’re talking about some CIA spookops the public had no knowledge of until 30 years after the fact.
You mentioned tankies, tankies are explicitly supporters of the ussr, nothing more or less. If you fail to understand that, no shit you’re confused. You’re one of those people that think if you have a problem with killing children, you’re a crazy leftie tankie. As you’ve demonstrated in this comment.
Also the us is still bombing more than a dozen countries for the crime of not wanting the us. What the fuck are you in about secret shit?
From pinochet to pol pot the us hasn’t been secret about anything but their failures. Who taught you to suck billionaire dick this hard?
You’re confused. Shifting all those goalposts must’ve scrambled your brain, go back to your imbecilic belief that Stalinism somehow isn’t fascism and start over from there.
Our education system has failed, along with many others, you. Best of luck.
Lmao whose education system do you think I referred to?
Globally our children (and adults like you) are failing critical thinking.
Stalin laid the groundwork for the USSR to turn into what it is now, a dictatorship.
You tankie morons are deluded by the notion that your king is the “good” king.
The only good king is a dead king. Remember this while watching what’s happening in the US right now: they’re transitioning straight through Stalinist central government structure right fucking now. And they’re already pushing it into a dictatorial structure.
Get your heads out of your asses and see that Stalinism is the direct ideallogical link to Nazism. Jesus fucking christ education has failed so many of you.
Have you ever read anything more complicated than Harry Potter without it being assigned in school?
There’s a whole world of history and political theory out there that could tell you the ways you were lied to about Stalin, so you could actually form your own opinion instead of regurgitate what you were told by your government.
Personally, it sounds as if you’ve been brainwashed far too much to be within any reach of help.
But if you were to open your eyes for one damned second you’d see that your Stalinism is the architecture that led to Ayn Randian objectivism. This led to crony capitalism, which led to oligarchy, which is currently leading the US straight into fascism.
You’re the left’s equivalent of the right’s brainwashed MAGA cultist. You won’t make it great. It’s been tried, and it wasn’t that great to begin with. All you’re doing now is feeding into peoples’ fears that communism leads to dictatorship, which under Stalinism has BEEN PROVEN to do just that.
You’re trying to help but you’re honestly harming progress. Educate yourself before you try to educate others. And do yourself a favor and try to see beyond singular governments, you narrow-minded buffoon.
Sure thing lib. Stalinism, the thing that nearly solely killed fascism, is fascism. You’re welcome on behalf of stalin, by the way, for killing nazis when you people wouldn’t.
It’s not complicated at all? Tankies are autocrats. They’re on the authoritarian right politically, which makes their economic stances irrelevant.
Also everyone knows history is written in blood, the fuck are you pussyfooting around the mention of historical violence for?
You have a deep misunderstanding of tankies. And leftism. And…pretty much everything?
No, quite literally you do. Then again you people tend to call anyone to the left of burning children alive tankies, so that doesn’t matter.
They’re not right wing, politically or otherwise. Just as a reminder the ussr was decades ahead of the us in terms of left wing cultural progress; promoting gender equality, racial equality, and religious equality. Yes, they turned authoritarian, because they didn’t want to be destroyed by the us; and hadn’t advanced enough to understand why mixed markets, i.e. dengism, was essential.
But building a nation from scraps while at war with an enemy with inexaustible resources tends to require authoritarianism, and will require some level of authoritarianism until the west is disarmed, economically and militarily.
Anyone that disagrees with that has no concept of how much destruction and chaos the us sowed among any nation that dared to self determine away from being a us slave state.
Parenti, in Blackshirt in Reds, covers this topic excellently. He does not gloss over the flaws and corruptions in the USSR, but he is realistic in giving a fair assessment of their successes in the midst of their failures. A big point being what you mentioned above: the USSR had to continue focusing production towards just being on even footing with the US in terms of defense, to protect against the very real threat of the US overthrowing the government as they were doing in so many other communist countries. At no time during the USSR’s existence were they ever not under attack by some outside force or another (the NAZIs, CIA, multi-national capitalist interests etc). Here’s a good quote talking about the Stalin era and progressive policies during that time:
Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism by Michael Parenti
Jesus christ I thought my post was firm enough but you’re still trying to argue. I never said shit about the US or the USSR and you’re spewing bullshit like I made an argument.
Reading over what you wrote in full, you’re either trolling or incapable of admitting fault. Either way, good luck to you.
Your tankie overlords are literally doing what you’re describing in Ukraine, South Africa, all over the middle east, right fucking now and you’re talking about some CIA spookops the public had no knowledge of until 30 years after the fact.
Who taught you this bullshit?
You mentioned tankies, tankies are explicitly supporters of the ussr, nothing more or less. If you fail to understand that, no shit you’re confused. You’re one of those people that think if you have a problem with killing children, you’re a crazy leftie tankie. As you’ve demonstrated in this comment.
Also the us is still bombing more than a dozen countries for the crime of not wanting the us. What the fuck are you in about secret shit?
From pinochet to pol pot the us hasn’t been secret about anything but their failures. Who taught you to suck billionaire dick this hard?
You’re confused. Shifting all those goalposts must’ve scrambled your brain, go back to your imbecilic belief that Stalinism somehow isn’t fascism and start over from there.
Our education system has failed, along with many others, you. Best of luck.
Jesus fucking Christ you think our education system is producing tankies? You think our education system produced people who defend Stalin?
News flash! You learned to hate Stalin in our education system and never questioned it.
Lmao whose education system do you think I referred to?
Globally our children (and adults like you) are failing critical thinking.
Stalin laid the groundwork for the USSR to turn into what it is now, a dictatorship.
You tankie morons are deluded by the notion that your king is the “good” king.
The only good king is a dead king. Remember this while watching what’s happening in the US right now: they’re transitioning straight through Stalinist central government structure right fucking now. And they’re already pushing it into a dictatorial structure.
Get your heads out of your asses and see that Stalinism is the direct ideallogical link to Nazism. Jesus fucking christ education has failed so many of you.
Have you ever read anything more complicated than Harry Potter without it being assigned in school?
There’s a whole world of history and political theory out there that could tell you the ways you were lied to about Stalin, so you could actually form your own opinion instead of regurgitate what you were told by your government.
Instead you just regurgitate what you’re fed.
Personally, it sounds as if you’ve been brainwashed far too much to be within any reach of help.
But if you were to open your eyes for one damned second you’d see that your Stalinism is the architecture that led to Ayn Randian objectivism. This led to crony capitalism, which led to oligarchy, which is currently leading the US straight into fascism.
You’re the left’s equivalent of the right’s brainwashed MAGA cultist. You won’t make it great. It’s been tried, and it wasn’t that great to begin with. All you’re doing now is feeding into peoples’ fears that communism leads to dictatorship, which under Stalinism has BEEN PROVEN to do just that.
You’re trying to help but you’re honestly harming progress. Educate yourself before you try to educate others. And do yourself a favor and try to see beyond singular governments, you narrow-minded buffoon.
Sure thing lib. Stalinism, the thing that nearly solely killed fascism, is fascism. You’re welcome on behalf of stalin, by the way, for killing nazis when you people wouldn’t.
As brilliant as the previous comment was your reply couldn’t be more confidently wrong.