Property damage is not violence, say it with me now
What I meant to say was that you’re wrong. Destruction is violent any way you cut it.
Don’t spout dumb shit so quickly.
Ask AI if destroying someone else’s private property is a violent act.
“Say it with me now”
Ew god… I don’t know why I torture myself like this.
Ah yes, the all knowing AI lmfao
I destroyed my toilet this morning. Am I violent?
Destruction of property isn’t violence, but words are?
This gets a screenshot.
Uhhhhh I don’t recall saying that
Who said words are?
Overly effeminate soy boys. Liberals. Leftists. Woketards.
Words isnt violence.
Oh, you’re just a fucking moron. Gotcha.
Get triggered more, snowflake
Which half of that are you confused about?
Between this and sharing screenshots to giggle about internet people, you sound like a teenager.
Pm me a pic of your --ck
Im not actually screenshoting, but…
“Property damage is not violence, say it with me now”
Screams low T soyboy and is a priceless quote.
But yes, destruction of private property is a violent act.
When the threat is credible, words are much more violent than burning a car, sheesh. You’re being manipulated by your desire to be manly. What kind of weakling even cares about threats until the Nazis are at your doorstep, when you can simply fight them off with your big hairy penis.
Come at me scrublord I’m ripped
“it with me now”
What did he think was going to happen?
Like everyone down there, they feel it will happen to everyone else, not them.
I like it when Nazi man-children cry.
You know what’s horrific and evil? Cutting Medicaid and social security for millions of people because your billions of dollars isn’t enough money to make up for the fact that you’re a giant man baby.
“It’s only a civil war when we do it. Otherwise it’s nonsensical violence against innocents!”
“Defending freedom” when we bomb <anyone>! Terrorism when they bomb us!
Has he even said ‘Thank You’ ONCE yet??? So ungrateful…
And he’s not wearing a suit either
The funny thing is, he doesn’t even feel it that much. His ownership of Tesla is peanuts compared to SpaceX, where the contracts with the government are. Just some food for taught 🤔
? ~60% of his wealth is estimated to be in Tesla shares
His net worth is definitely affected by Tesla shares declining
No, it actually ~13% while on SpaceX being the owner he has a share of ~42%
It’s not what they were talking about though. They said tesla shares were 60% of his wealth, not that he owned 60% of tesla.
I can’t find the actual number but it looks like tesla shares were 75% of his wealth in 2020, and fell to 37% in 2022 when he sold some.
So it’s definitely hurting him
So what you are telling me, is that 37% of what he made till 2022 is from Tesla, yes, that is true, but if it fell from 75% to 37% in just 2 years and it most likely fell again till 2024, that amount has to been shrinking due to a larger summ of money coming from another investment with a bigger amount of shares. SpaceX started gaining more money with the starlink project and the governmental contracts, around 2019-2020 and who has the most shares in that company? Is Elon, today his wealth is not coming that much from Tesla, he still made money from it, but we are debating small stuff to what SpaceX represents to him.
Well the subject originally was that Tesla’s drop was hurting elon, to which you said “he doesn’t feel it that much”.
By doing a quick search, I found that his spaceX shares are worth around $147 billion, while is tesla shares are worth around $98 billion. You are right that spaceX represents more, but it’s not small stuff. And to stay on topic, it seems like the value of his Tesla stock and options has declined by nearly $102 billion since the beginning of the year, which I think is not small even for him.
While you are right the contracts with the governements are balancing the losses a bit, it’s still a good chunk of his wealth, as it seems he has gone from $443 billion in december 2024 to $380 billion mid february, and I’ll take whatever hurst this mf.
I went a bit far from the main subject, what I meant with “He doesn’t feel it that much” is that it’s not enough of pain for him, and SpaceX will be his saving grace to preserve his power. I should have been more precise
Edit: Plus, I was wrong, I should have researched it a bit more. Thanks for the info
I definitely agree with you when you say it’s not enough !
How the hell do Elon and other oligarchs feel so safe to call for a literal civil war? He thinks the other side cares more about fighting Joe Bob more than the billionaires? Such strange delusional behavior
Historically, that is how elites have always maintained their power, so yes. It’s just a lot more difficult to 1) mobilize an overworked and comfort-seeking populace, and 2) we are more interconnected than ever before.
The power of propaganda is being seized by the people. We create the content. We cover current and localized events (in actual real time) because it’s our actual communities. We know who is who and what is what.
He assumed his opponents would kill random people instead of targeting his property.
He probably can’t even comprehend a worldview where people prefer to attack wealth over taking another human being’s life.
I was looking for someone saying this. He was envisioning a bunch of us poors fighting each other when he called for civil war. He never thought it would be all of us against him.
It really does show that violence might be the only way to get through to these people. Not that I would ever advocate for such a thing directly myself of course of course. But if this is the only thing that gets their attention, it seems like he’s inviting more of it.
That would require empathy, which he considers a weakness. So he probably is genuinely baffled by this.
I don’t know if he consider that a weakness.
He’s a narcissist and it’s how they work, they just miss empathy and they can’t recognize their errors.
The best thing about this is that Tesla is massively overvalued. Like, the stock price is more than 20x what it should be based on Tesla’s earnings.
If Tesla had a reasonable value, then hedge fund managers and other rich people would probably be buying it while it was temporarily down and getting rich as it went back up. But, with it so insanely overvalued, it’s much more likely they’ll short it or buy put options and hope to get rich when it finally crashes.
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Yes, it was at something like 30x overvalued, now it’s only 20x overvalued.
Glad you mentioned Toyota. Their P/E ratio is approximately 7. Tesla is approximately 100. If Tesla were a well run car company with a lot of good vehicles and an anonymous CEO who nobody hates, the fair value of their stock would be about $14 per share. It’s currently $236 per share.
Someone is going to make mountains of money shorting Tesla stock, but unfortunately it’s going to be someone rich. The market can remain irrational much longer than normal people can remain solvent. Some rich dude is going to take the risk though and make out like a bandit.
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The funny thing is the first tweet was right, just wrong in his intention. I don’t see this ending without a civil war.
It’s what they want. They are gambling on it.
As long as they don’t step into canada, all that will be waiting is a bullet and a disgraceful burial.
They are going to do it from within Canada, just like they’ve done elsewhere. That infection already exists in Canada. Just hope it doesn’t spread.
I think it’s what we want too at this point though.
Serious question, what are we meant to do with all the die-hard Trumpers? Like there are people who are willing to kill for him, people who have gladly sacrificed their relationships with their friends and family for him. Even in the absolute fantasy world where the U.S. gov could be fixed via electoralism, we’d still have about a third of the country that is hungry to kill the other 2/3rds.
At this point it looks like our options are either re-education camps, or bloodshed.
I think it’s a trap. I think liberal institutions need to actually unify and resources. Money talks. Nothing about that has changed. Buying out board seats within corporate media, flooding the zone with lawsuits, staging organized major protests around the country, continuing to press back on right wing controlled social media (e.g. Facebook and Twitter). Think of it like laying a sort of political and legal siege to slow them down and starve them out rather than giving them what they want. Will that work? I have no idea, but I know walking into a trap surely won’t.
I don’t understand how you guys down south are still asking this question? It’s obvious to us up in Canada, how is it not clear to you that you are ALSO and probably even moreso going through an existential threat. Get prepared, be ready, start that now. I know we are.
maybe because it would be nice to avoid having our entire country kill each other? Maybe because all the people who have been brainwashed by our right-wing propoganda centers don’t really deserve to die just because they were duped?
What, are we supposed to be happy that we’re rapidly heading towards the bloodiest conflict America has ever seen, just full speed ahead on death and destruction? You think it’s pointless to even try and care about the monumental loss of life?
Sow wind, harvest storm.
I’m still not convinced that isn’t just insurance fraud to try to recoup some money for junky cars no one wants while pretending he’s a political victim.
Good luck getting that proven in a court
Does any of court even matter anymore when the president is in your back pocket?
Exactly
He didn’t mean for it to affect him, his share prices, or his job!
Personally i think the level of violence could be a little higher still… Or way higher! Burning megafactories levels of higher.
Well, civil war levels of violence would be higher. Are you saying Elon was right lol?
“A sufficiently broken clock can randomly be right an arbitrary number of times per day”.
If it happens to a poor defenseless megafactory outside the US is it still civil war?
Who is Elizabeth helgelien?
Who cares, we know in which asshole her tongue is and that’s all that matters.
