• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    I’d love to see someone post a viable plan for America to overcome this problem. Because right now- there isn’t much that can be done that isn’t being done already. And I’ll add that it’s always so easy to look upon the problems of others and judge them as simple to solve, isn’t it?

    I mean… how many of you all were in favor of Brexit? From my recollection, it wasn’t very many. Yet- it didn’t seem like anyone did fuck-all to stop it. From over here, it almost seemed like even was totally fine with it.

    Additionally, it should be noted that he now has our military loyally shoved up his ass and with them- the technology to turn one house into a crater while leaving the one next door entirely untouched. If you haven’t noticed. We can’t seem to organize a decent-sized nonviolent protest. Hell, we couldn’t even vote this away knowing it was going to happen. The number of citizens that wanted this to happen outnumbered those that didn’t, and was actually helped by the remainder that refused to vote because of single issue bullshit and the fact that they’re fucking idiots.

    I’d be willing to bet that there’s not a free-thinking and capable person here that wouldn’t fight for their lives and the lives of those they love if/when it comes to it- but as of now, anyone with a brain knows how futile any fight would be.

    But by all means, don’t let this get in the way of all the fun you’re having making fun of people that are suffering and terrified about what’s being done to them here.

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    All of America is waiting for somebody to come along and save them, but nobody wants to be the one that gets the ball rolling. Fascism is going to win because Americans are too cowardly to act.

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    I agree that apathy is really fucking shitty, but you guys abroad have to realize that there are groups of people who genuinely are trying to get things to change.

    By pissing on these people who are celebrating protests, you’re weakening the will of the people to fight back. People aren’t going to want to change when they don’t feel like it’ll do anything.

    If you want a fire to grow, the best thing you can do if throw some lighter fluid on it instead of water

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        It’s still early days. We need all the momentum we can get. If things continue going the way they are, it won’t take long for it to evolve beyond just protesting

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        There are many kinds of protest. The kind you’re imagining with walking around carrying signs is one kind, and doesn’t accomplish much in this situation. But there are other kinds of protest that may well work.

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    I mean, I’m American and if I had to pick one, we’re definitely that latter. It’s just that I grew up here, so it’s more readily apparent to me that the conservatives who screamed about muh guns muh constitution were always operating in bad faith. Kinda like how the conservatives you guys are about to elect are operating in bad faith when they talk about how very worried they are about immigration.

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      100%

      The gun-totin, “don’t tread on me,” larping persona crowd have always been first in line to bend the knee and lick the boot of the weakest strongman.

      Uvalde’s tragedy is a complete example: 400 armed, “trained,” professionals, all too cowardly and incompetent and deficient in character to actual do the job they thump their chests over.

      Every Conservative boast about strength and power is performative nonsense to mask their deep and unabiding fears and insecurities.

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    The “average” American, much like the average human, is driven by “feels” rather than facts.

    They will rail against “socialized medicine” because they live paycheck to paycheck, don’t manage their finances in any meaningful way, and have no idea how much their healthcare is actually costing them. Spoiler: it’s A LOT.

    They will demonize immigrants because it’s easier to blame random brown people for “stealing our jobs” than it is to hold giant corporations accountable for closing the plant and moving jobs somewhere cheaper.

    They will gladly feed women’s rights into a wood chipper over the idea of “saving babies”, until that baby starts to make demands (on day one of it’s life). Then it’s an “entitled taker.”

    They will brag about America being the “greatest country in the world” and in the same breath, complain that we need to “make America great again”, while completely missing the irony.

    They will happily drink up as much propaganda as possible because it gives them someone to blame for their problems and allows them to believe that constant manufactured outrage is a solution, even though it’s really just a distraction.

    They spent so much of their time believing and repeating the lie that the United States is comprised of “rugged individuals” and that if things have gone poorly for you, that is somehow entirely and unquestionably your own fault. Upon finding that things have gone poorly for them, they can’t reconcile this incorrect belief with the fact thar they didn’t necessarily do anything wrong. This is incredibly and understandably demoralizing.

    I’m painting with a broad brush here. Not every American thinks this way but a lot of them do. I don’t really know what it’s going to take to get us back on the right path but I think a good place to start is by taking notes from John Donne, the English preacher and poet who wrote, “No man is an island entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent. A part of the main.”

    I don’t and will never sympathize with Nazis and fascists. I do understand some of the things they’re frustrated about. The only way forward is for them to accept that in order for things to get better, it has to get better for all of us. Shooting holes in the someone else’s corner of the ship only makes their corner sink a little faster than yours. I just hope they figure that out before we’re all completely under water.

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    Lack of job protection

    Lack of healthcare protection

    Inability to miss or reduce even a single paycheck due to cost of living

    It’s winter, and most major cities North of Texas have had below freezing temps with brutal wind chill for the past several weeks

    The recognition that no protest in the last 20 years has accomplished anything in the US.

    Put that all together, and is it any surprise people aren’t protesting?

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      I was at one that I wouldn’t call massive but yes— it is hard to let our non-American friends know what’s happening because the President day protests went almost ignored in the media.

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      Yeah, that’s how other countries see Americans? This meme is confusing. In the US, most of us don’t usually wear track suits.

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    Half the country actively wants this. It wouldnt be a revolt, it would be a civil war. And Im not even sure the sane people would win this time.

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      Bullshit, american are weak minded, before the civil war there is so much more option, like protest, blocking infrastructures, not paying taxes and strikes… If only a third of the country did that, US would be in shambles after a few month…

      But no, americans are like german before WWII or russians right now, nazis or weaks assholes not wanting to change slightly the confort of their consumerist life style. Fuck the US, Land of freedom my ass… Next Time I will see an american in Europe, i will spit at his face, you are not welcome.

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        Next time I see an american in Europe…

        This line of thinking is how we got here in the first place you idiot. Stop making generalizations and dehumanizing people, it just makes it easier to slaughter them. There are Americans standing up and fighting. They are human beings who deserve life just as much as you do

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          Where buddy? You have literal nazis as government, and nobody is doing shit about it. Posting rants on social media is the maximum you can do? Pathetic… You are like meek sheeps waiting to be slaughtered. Worse, you are even bragging like turds on social media, but are too weak to fight for your rights. The US society is so deep into shit, that it went far beyond any dystopian ultra capitalistic oligarchy bad fiction… Even your pot heads parents during Woodstock Era had more balls to fight for peace than you have yourself to make yourself dinner instead of calling for delivery…

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        this is funny because before ww2, germans at the same relative stage of the nazis take over basically said the same things you just did. “We can protest, we can not pay taxes… and strikes…” hitler didn’t rise to power uncontested. His brownshirts showed up to the protests and ended them. violently.