“[…] what we’re witnessing now is the systematic dismantling of this entire architecture of peace—not through external defeat, but through internal surrender”

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    AOC, The Squad, and Bernie are all still a tiny minority in the party

    Are you well versed in every Democrat in Congress and their positions and statements over the last eight years? If so, I’d like to ask you questions. However, you are not. So where do you get this crap? I know where you get this crap. It’s the corporate news, like everyone else.

    Did you want to argue you read all the beltway newsletters, interact with grassroots organizations, and have a buddy who tends bar at the local Dem watering hole? Again, if so, I’d like to ask questions.

    . . . striving for free healthcare, and so on, but democrats know that he is not going to achieve his goals.

    What the - who are “democrats” here? And what is "know"ing that he is not going to (what is) “achieve” “his” goals? “Leftists create telepathic webbing of negative function that support evil farts around the world.” That’s what that sounds like. Crazy shit. Define some terms at least.

    Similarly, Bernie received the most opposition from the democratic party when he ran in the 2016 and 2020 primaries.

    “the most opposition” eh. What did they do to him in 2020? Answer as completely as possible and cite your sources, as there will be follow ups. (TL;DR: You read it in a comment somewhere and took it as gospel). Hey, I’ll give you DWS who was booted from the party as soon as it came to light but you need to acknowledge the latter to get that one. You also need to explain his primary losses. Why can’t you support Bernie? He’s asking you to support the Democrats. You choose to flip him off because you supposedly agree with him.

    If progressives start gaining more power, they will get stomped down,

    'Twas ever thus. But we’ve never had instant worldwide communication before in such an open format. So far we’ve used it to fumble the one thing we should have absolutely done. Go progressives. Morons.

    democrats making efforts to get rid of them or prevent them from winning in primaries

    That cnn article is great. I followed the author to find this which is also relevant. Check the date on that one.

    I would argue that this means progressives need to be more involved in the Democratic party to finally take it over as it should be. But instead they’re jerking off to Marx and backing no one and doing nothing.

    they’re not the huge battleship you frame them as.

    Well you’re wrong there. They have a national organization, it’s huge, and they have money and connections. What does Deez Nutz have? A twitter account.

    . . .endlessly talk about reproductive and LGBT rights, but even then democrats will still let those rights stay in a precarious position so that they can keep using them as talking points.

    No. Also wrong. It’s a popular talking point. It’s equivalent to “50,000 Elvis fans can’t be wrong!” but it is wrong.

    Now he says the bill is “not my highest legislative priority,” as he put it at a recent news conference.

    Do you know the context of that quote? If you did, you wouldn’t be so sure it’s a great example of your previous incorrect assumption.