Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad actually are terrible
Anybody surprized by this?
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Wait till they hear about reddit
I mean any default experience which includes the ml trio is legitimately vile. The sooner Lemmy gets serious about the tankie problem, the better.
do people still use google for search? when i watch my mom search for something she’ll ask any AI over google. soon reddit results will vanish from google for their paywall. so this is a good sign! the evil americans will have a hard time with massextraction of personal data from around the world. enemies of murica can research building bombs without being tracked by the neonazination. anything bas for america haa turned into something good for the world. is there any way to speed this up maybe? spez should start his paywal asap!
I don’t get the hate this place gets. It’s been really interesting watching Lemmy’s growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.
True Story, Bob
Lol.
There’s a lot of negativity here tbh
I haven’t really seen it outside of the like normal levels of hate. Which subLemmys or whatever are you seeing it on?
Just in general there is no level of chill. I have the down votes completely disabled
Avoid the news communities and filter out the Trump and Elon spam and you’ll have a much better time.
Agreed. I never even had Instagram or twitter but I’ve become a pixelfed and mastodon lurker after enjoying Lemmy for 1+ years. The comment section here is miles ahead of reddit, where you get repost after repost and the same old tired jokes in every comment section.
The fediverse is fantastic and I’m happy to be a (very minor) part of it.I’m almost 40, this place reminds me of the early internet in a good way. Like, people connecting and sharing ideas… what even Reddit used to feel like. Sure, sometimes there are arguments but, due to the lack of an “outage” algorithm to juice engagement, you usually only hear about it unless it’s something you directly follow. With the lack of profit motive on the side of the platform and hosting end of things, it appears that trolls and clout chasers have a genuine hard time monopolizing everyone’s attention.
Same. It feels more personal.
I feel that as well, but I think that may be as a consequence of there being such a small user base. It may go away with time.
I’m a little older and while all my buddies were on the internet in the early days it didn’t interest me but I was well aware of how it functioned.
I was a reddit lurker back when it was cool and a place to gain knowledge (depending on the sub) then a few years back finally becoming a user until the last couple years seeing it really go down hill fast turning into a typical " social media platform"
Leemy gives me a sense of nostalgia for something I missed out on in the past. …And I don’t feel like an asshole scrolling in my spare time
I blame Tankies. They’re too aggressive with their “liberals this, liberals that” bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesn’t know what a Tankie this.
Hexbear and LemmyGrad’s bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, immediately see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.
I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. They’re ruining Lemmy.
I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off
Good. The last thing we need is more stormfront brainrot.
Also, quite the ironic comment.
I blame the anti-tankies. Like this is the only site i even see the termed even used and it looks like a weird hysteria for most. The community is already smal so it looks relay wired. Even this whinny attitude of blocking every one on this tiny space give real off vibes.
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they already have thier safe spaces on r/consevative, conspiracy, and trueunpopular opinon, but they whine on other subs that th ey are still get censored, or the so-called left is in an echo-chamber ever since trump won. even though those sub is mostly run by russian state owned bot system.
Can confirm - I’m new here and when I see pieces of shit who’d be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn’t make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I’ll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.
people my grandfather killed in WWII
YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2
We know, it was a team effort.
There was also that broken Nazi/Soviet pact and all that carving up of other peoples countries though that was supposed to go the other way.
And look, another Nazi plot with the Russians.
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone. The Soviets were one of the last to sign one, because they had spent the proceeding years trying to form an explicitly anti-Nazi pact with the capitalist nations, only to be rebuffed.
If Chamberlain had listened to Stalin, the war either wouldn’t have happened, or it would have been over much more quickly.
Everyone except America :)
(Which had segregation and was the inspiration for half of Nazi Germany’s policies)
Everyone except America :)
Tends to happen when there’s war happening in another continent
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say that the bully countries never understand.
There was also a secret protocol to the pact, which was revealed only after Germany’s defeat in 1945[101] although hints about its provisions had been leaked much earlier, so as to influence Lithuania.[102] According to the protocol, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland were divided into German and Soviet “spheres of influence”.[101] In the north, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia were assigned to the Soviet sphere.[101] Poland was to be partitioned in the event of its “political rearrangement”: the areas east of the Pisa, Narew, Vistula, and San rivers would go to the Soviet Union, and Germany would occupy the west.[101] Lithuania, which was adjacent to East Prussia, was assigned to the German sphere of influence, but a second secret protocol, agreed to in September 1939, reassigned Lithuania to the Soviet Union.[103] According to the protocol, Lithuania would be granted its historical capital, Vilnius, which was part of Poland during the interwar period. Another clause stipulated that Germany would not interfere with the Soviet Union’s actions towards Bessarabia, which was then part of Romania.[101] As a result, Bessarabia as well as the Northern Bukovina and Hertsa regions were occupied by the Soviets and integrated into the Soviet Union.
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say
Please tell me what alternative there was for these “cut up countries”. If the USSR hadn’t established military presence in these countries, they’d just have been invaded by the Nazis. Maybe you expect the Soviet Union, after being ignored for a decade of mutual defense negotiations, to selflessly send its people to die for the countries that refused a military alliance? Like literally, what was the alternative here
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone.
Nope. With only with Russia, Axis nations, and a few small countries.
Stalin literally made a pact with Hitler to participate in the imperialist invasion of Poland.
Here’s one example that took place a year before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
Neville Chamberlain and Édouard Daladier made a pact with Hitler to just give him their former ally, Czechoslovakia.
Bro inadvertently it made a new copypasta 😂
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Buddy they made Lemmy, you’re in their space
Quite frankly I’m not looking forward to the renewed deluge of Reddit opinions like “the US Army is socialism”
I mean, tbf, joining the military IS what made me start looking into the concept of Socialism and what it means.
Is the military socialism? No, us Enlisted have no power and the Officer corps is the “owning class”, but we have good, tax payer funded social benefits that I believe everyone should have access to.
It’s like a gateway drug into anti-capitalism idealogies. If the US is never going to go full socialist (or at least not in our lifetimes), then I think raising taxes and giving everyone TRICARE, VA Loan benefits, tuition assistance, and a pension will go a long way in solving most people’s biggest fears/relieving a metric fuckton of oppression caused by capitalism.
Also, having been to the Middle East and seen firsthand the stark difference of people driving around Ducatis and Lambos, parking in front malls inlaid with real gold, while 10 minutes up the road whole communities had built their shack homes in the desert with random odds and ends and thrown blankets over their windows was…I cant really describe the feeling I got. Dread, anger, immense sadness, just a whole myriad of negative emotions. Couple that with the intense religious fervor that is rampant in the region, and yeah, I have no idea how a military member can look at all that and be like “This. This is what America needs.”
Granted, yes, unfortunately a lot of our service men and women are still unfortunately extremely pro-Capitalism/Trump and Elon Musk fanboys…I just don’t know how.
Either way, my comment got long, but when people start in on the “The Army is Socialist!” Dont be mad. Educate! They’re at the very least coming from a place of “Fuck, we really could make everyones lives better if we give everyone these benefits that we enjoy so much!” And that shows compassion for others, which is something so fucking desperately needed right now.
You’re right, but it doesn’t stop it from being tiresome to constantly be fighting that battle.
Oh I believe that 100%!
I suppose I’m a little more patient with it because I went through the same change myself, AND because I like people (finally) pointing out that we do have a system for socialized healthcare in America!
All politics ruin everything.
Only way you believe this is if you’re extremely priviledge so that politics don’t impact your life or ignorant about the fact that it does.
Most politics*
Happy now?
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Fuck you @[email protected]!
There ya go.
cause one half is porn, the other is about linux
they went after the OF accts recently, if people wanted OF porn, they go to non-PH and thier affiliate sites.
Welcome!
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Because Reddit removes posts promoting Lemmy
no wonder they wanted api gone as well, it allowed people to ban evade, since its not using the site directly.
This really isn’t true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OP’s search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, there’s plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OP’s image, was positive about it.
I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. It’s either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isn’t the case.
i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp “ban” while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.
also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.
I’ve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.
Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and they’re just getting high off the ashes.
that sub used to be good, til it got astroturfed during the election month, its more or less a politics clone sub, with a hint of tech whining. i got “reported” for reporting too much people. trying to eliminate the spam on your sub.
Link doesn’t work for me
Same. Just link Reddit. It’s not that hard…
You get a bunch of trackers though. To be fair I’m not sure whatever the other thing is is better.
Using “normies” unironically is one of the reasons Lemmy is a huge turn off. Normal people don’t talk like that, and it makes you look stuck up.
Yeah, you’re not wrong…
I can only see one of those two posts (the second one) and it’s pretty well reasoned (I don’t agree though, just saying they did provide their reasoning in more than enough words imo). If you’re interested, here’s the link.
To summarize it:
- UI worse than New Reddit (I personally agree with it being at least just as bad, that’s why I didn’t go to Lemmy)
- Big instances are laggy (remember, the post is from 7 months ago not today, so don’t compare the statement to how they are now)
- Bad mod tools (a common complaint I see about Lemmy)
- Too much far left and tech focus (another common complaint)
- It’s not active enough (yet another common complaint)
- Shitty mods (I disagree with the specific claim made about them being worse than Reddit ones, but I’ve definitely seen at least one shitty mod here so far, and too many are neglectful)
- Lemmy developers are Maoist (fact iirc)
- The community is filled with far left extremists, Mao worshippers, dictator bootlickers, and genocide supporters (the one actually unreasonable take imo which indicates they went to the wrong instance)
The user got banned by the automod in the first one.
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You got banned by the automod because your account was less than 24 hours old and you received 40 downvotes on a post. That filter is in place to combat spambots and trolls, because normal users are unlikely to trigger it by getting so many downvotes so soon after making an account
I messaged the admin and they already unbanned your account. …
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1e0xugs/stay_away_from_lemmy/
Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
Do you have 🗿 here?
Vile. You offer hot cocoa with no whipped cream!? Aboslutely terrible.
Hey, I don’t like when the whipped cream gets on the tip of my nose, all right? Let’s fight.
Cheers.
I’m responsible for the whipped cream, here you go
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Hell yeah! Consider sticking around for a bit. Don’t forget that you have the power to block individuals, communities, and even entire instances if you’re having a bad time. Not sure if reddit gives you all that power, but it has its uses!
Not sure if reddit gives you all that power
It does not. Was one of the reasons that I abandoned it when they blocked third party clients. I resent being forced to view right-wing propaganda, rage-bait, and ads as well as being forced to short by opaque algorithms that are clearly intended to manipulate.
same, reddit is slowly turning into FB, with all the right wing narratives, 90% of the post is about trump, its the same thing MSMs did to get him into the WH. while it maybe “center right” it mostly gives avenues for right wingers to “see what we told you guys”, i pointed that out on many subs. people are just lapping all the bs thats comes out, liek trump did this goof, like it matters. despite them being critical of trump, it actually gives 24/7 coverage outside of X and MSMs.
you can block invididuals, and turn off replies, but its often not effective, because if you go back to the orignal convo you blocked, you can see them bitching that you blocked them, oh and they created another account so they can evade your own block(since they cant join your convo thread in a subreddit. often times they will retaliate by reporting you for blocking them. and risking reporting them, can put you at odds with a mod, say you cant make too many reports.
Maybe OP got a bad experience on .ml or accidentally used hexbear
Rent free in your brains, gahdaym
Maybe because Reddit sees Lemmy as a concurrent.
Its 100% on purpose, those arent the most relevant or highest rated posts, cherrypicked
Possibly landed in Hexbear. In combination with Spaz’s purge of all things Lemmy encouraging.
They probably went to .ml or a tankie instance
they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog
This right here is why the public mod log is one of the best things on the internet.
like i said, nothing shows in modlog. user is ModerateImprovement on sh.itjust.works, i’m guessing what happened based on that reddit post
Ah them. I believe that’s one of the trolls that I blocked in my client.
Oi. I remember them. They definitely came in extra hot. Clashing with a culture they had no experience with. And then wondering what everyone else’s problem was. 🙄
But .ml says a lot lol
I don’t get why people hate on .ml
They cater to tankies.
OK, so this is where you learned your word of the day, you’re even more pathetic than I thought
So, it was a skill issue
this is my first acc on lemmy, i had no idea that was a seperate login. whats ML?
Lemmy.ml is a lemmy community primarily composed of socialists. Because socialists are highly critical of racist behaviour, white supremacist tropes, US exceptionalism/western chauvinism, imperialist attitudes (many of which bleed in well-meaning liberals), and capitalist countries, they don’t tolerate such things in their community and are very critical when they see such things in other communities, which is often met with distrust and dislike because nobody enjoys being confronted. .ml are very confrontational and they get met with confrontation. There are also some legit problems with a few moderators expressing transphobic beliefs, which is why i personally choose hexbear as my main community. Kinda sad that people here have such a red scare as if it were communists and not fascists in governments all over the western world right now and increasingly so.
Lemmy has a feature called federation, which means that anyone can setup their own lemmy server and run it how they want, but it will connect to all the other servers, so they share the same posts. lemmy.ml is one server, but it has some tankies who are people who think authoritarian regimes, like soviet russia, were good.
“Tankie instances” don’t tolerate transphobia or western exceptionalism or Zionism. Lib instances don’t tolerate questioning of US State Department propaganda (been banned from many comms for questioning the validity of Wikipedia articles on geopolitically charged topics) but will tolerate Zionism (downvoted but not banned). I’d rather have the former
zionism, pro-israeli is probably the worst right now, i was banned r/worldnews temporarily for pointing out who was the sole instigator of the war(BIBI), someone freaked out and said something along the lines, why don you become PM then, and then ranted, (i assume he was the turd that reported me.) normally you can tell who reported you, but i always CHECK my last message, so i know who it is. even “israelis” own population knows he did it, why is it only people outside of the country supporting him.
Search manipulation? Why would the top two results both be 7 months old?
shitty reddit search.
I don’t have the answer but welcome.
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Ima be real everyone is kissing lemmys ass but… I mean, it feels like reddit? Which is good?
Feels no different from reddit so far lol
Main difference from reddit is that you don’t see the same joke repeated in every thread. And here if you comment something it’ll probably be read by at least a few people.
Those top posts on reddit are always karma farming bots
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Not so sure about the jokes. I use Arch BTW…
Disclaimer: I actually don’t. I’m too lazy these days.
Here, your comment doesn’t get completely buried if you make one on a popular post. Part of that is the lack of heavy volume, of course, but I also feel like the sorting is more favorable to less upvoted comments.
Yeah Lemmy has the user base that will dogpile you if you say something mildly upsetting
Windows 11 is the best operating system Microsoft have released in a long time, and I think it wins out on Arch Linux.
Bait used to be believable
After 5 words it was already evident that you were lying
Windows XP was the best OS ever. Then it was overtaken by any other alternative.
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I find myself getting into less stupid arguments here, and it feels more active.
The top comment on reddit is always a stupid fucking joke or pun. Not so on lemmy. That’s the biggest difference I notice when I go back to look at reddit. On popular posts the whole first 3 threads are inane bullshit.
“I also chose this guys dead wife”…
Like the inside jokes were really good on Reddit like the switcheroo one, or the guy that always had that whole comment that ended in the wrestling scene but most of them were just repeated to death
New here but so far it feels like Reddit used to feel 10 years ago - a bit less populated maybe.
This is some cope mechanism or some Stockholm syndrome right there.
Oh no… Anyway.
Lemmy tastes like reddit that I have grown in my backyard garden.
An heirloom Reddit, if you will.
Lemmy feels like reddit from 2010, when it was good.
so small and bitter but you just smile through it and say “it’s so good! 😢”?
maybe I don’t know how to grow stuff…You kind of just tipped your hand at your gardening ability. And also that you’ve never had a real tomato.
you are correct, I have been known to somehow kill a cactus or two.
Spider plants are going insane though, dispute losing >50% of them to the cold and rain this winter they are still living just fine. They’re like the plant version of cockroaches
Good to know, I decidedly do NOT have a green thumb either
Even last year when my tomatoes did poorly they still taste so much better than supermarket ones. Tbh outside a greenhouse I don’t think they really grow very well in the UK at all but I was given them so decided to try in the garden.
Main things I am growing is rosemary, thyme, sage, chives, mint, garlic and opium. But I kinda want to start guerrilla gardening some fruit bushes. Raspberries would be nice to plant around town.
I argue mostly everyone here never had a real banana. No, the ones in the stores aren’t the original flavor.
Well, the one in the stores are real bananas. They aren’t Gros Michel bananas, but that’s because Gros Michel went extinct before I was born (and I’m not exactly young anymore.) We might lose the Cavendish before I die.
Supposedly the “banana flavor” in candy is closer to a Gros Michel than to a Cavendish.
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Woah. I was today years old when I learned the slippery banana trope comes from an extinct banana.
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And “real” wild bananas are basically inedible.
Tulips.
Lemmy is tulips.
All the way down.
Resounding endorsements!
Good. If they are willing to smear us, they fear us.
downvote bots needed
Wouldn’t work if it’s Reddit itself manipulating the results
I don’t understand why it’s still so taboo to say that opaque social network owner would manipulate their platform’s results. They absolutely do it all the time because no one can know or stop them.
Who needs bots? get up your old abandoned reddit accounts guy!
funny thing redd started to banning them recently. its an recent effort of them cleaning house of potential competing OF users, and bots.
They’re all perm-banned for reporting mods for fuckery but I’m with you in spirit
Am I a bot to you?
