To be honest, this is actually a genius move when it comes to NSFW content.
Almost every pornographic sub has already been astroturfed by e-girls plugging their OnlyFans and Fansly links. Giving them the ability to paywall their content directly on Reddit effectively cuts out the middle-man and allows Reddit to undercut the likes of OF and Fansly with lower transaction fees.
there’s no way to monetize lemmy, right?
just making sure i’m on the right liferaft…
This site isn’t going to get popular enough to worry about. It’s large, sure, but people go to reddit because the sheer volume of users means your chances of catching breaking stories or real contributions by witnesses to events, is just much higher, there’s more of everything, and this is why they want to bleed it dry.
Just don’t get too attached, Reddit was Digg’s liferaft… Once Thing go to shit, move on.
Maybe yes, but realistically no. It’s open source, so anyone could make their own clone of it with whatever monetization methods they want. If you ran an instance, you could also charge people to post on it. That said, with the way Lemmy is organized, people would just leave the offending instance for a different one.
Reddit’s mechanics are not the whole story about why it became the juggernaut it is, the platform of people making their own forums isn’t new. What happened was a few major sites like Digg, Somethingawful, Fark, 4chan and a lot of old-school staples on the internet from the 90’s on through the 2010’s suddenly lost popularity as their user base matured at the same time reddit moved in. There were other factors, sure I was around during it all but it’s all quite complicated, but I’m pretty sure if reddit broadly started returning 404’s tomorrow, Lemmy would see a slight jump in users but people are just going to want the next new thing and it would be some entirely new thing that captures the world’s online browsing.
I’ve never seen a website replace another by copying it’s layout and mechanics. I’ve seen a lot of popular platforms die, but never resurrect in the same form, people always want something novel and they want to feel like they’re getting in ground-floor on something special. Reddit still offers that by giving users a chance to contribute early to conversations about current events, but if there were a new system that gave people a similar system and found some other way to give users a little serotonin boost like the votes do, then it would slay reddit pretty handedly.
there’s probably a way to monetise everything but with the numbers of Linux people (yes we know you use arch shush) and anti-capitalists, i think we’re safe?
Wait REQUIRING?
so if a sub gets popular enough they can just say “pay wall.”
No one said he was a rocket surgeon.
/r/lounge has been a thing for as long as I can remember, and I’m fairly sure you could already make your subreddit be only accessible for accounts with a
GoldPremium subscription.Welcome to Lemmy former redditors
Yeah I signed in for the first time in like a year right after seeing this lol
The revolution will be televised; behind a paywall.
The revolution will have a subscription.
You will not own the revolution and you will like it.
Thanks. I just switched - apparently just in time!
Me too friend!!
The only subreddit you need is
r/redditseppuku
Thanks, I love you too.
Some subreddits, like r/Watchexchange, where Redditors “buy, sell or trade watches,” according to the subreddit’s description, are centered on transactions. Huffman said the fact that users are already “transacting on Reddit kind of opens the door” for such monetization.
“Hey! How dare you exchange things with each other without giving us a cut!”
Whole lot of “Reddit, what are you going to do about the scammers now that we’re paying you?” posts are coming. The answer is nothing. They’ll do nothing.
Actually, they’ll write their lack of culpability more explicitly into the ToS, and then do nothing.
Actually, they’ll write their lack of culpability more explicitly into the ToS, and then do nothing.
Ugh, aCtUaLly the almighty Reddit Admins and
janitorsModerators will act decisively to ban anyone who dares use the report button.
thats why they have been aggressively going after OF subs/bots this month, they arnt getting a slice from the profit they are earning externally. from another forum,(where people flee after getting banned this way) alot of them lost tons of accts recently.
I’m wondering how they would charge people. Who would pay for a subreddit they’ve never been to? Could a non-paying user view the subreddit but be unable to post/comment?
Let’s be honest - this will kill many subreddits. Of course some mods will start a paid subreddit next to an existing one and try to bring their users to subscribe. So expect those subs to become like those YouTubers who are constantly trying to push you to their Patreon.
or they allowed subs, but with immense amount of ads: require to watch video, or watch this ad for a certain of time to use it for free. just basing it off how aggressively youtube, facebook does it.
Could a non-paying user view the subreddit but be unable to post/comment?
Doubtful. If I remember the statistic correctly, 95% of social media users are lurkers. Greedy Little Pigboy wouldn’t pass up the opportunity to milk the remaining 19/20 users.
pigs are intelligent beings. Spaz is not intelligent. Don’t insult pigs this way. :
Scroll down a few times and – “THERE’S A WHOLE LOT MORE TO SEE WITH REDDIT+”
and then, get exclusive content, from reddit+ prenium.
Could easily see certain subreddits being like OF or Patreon. Pay for access to content. Pretty tried and true business model and it will probably work well enough to keep it around.
Even YouTube has “memberships” to channels now where you get bonus content and stuff.
The people that are interested will pay and those that aren’t won’t.
Dollars to donuts it’s going to immediately devolve into an onlyfans competitor
Interesting article. Clearly says the pay groups would be new groups and this wouldn’t affect any existing groups.
probably going to bury the “free” groups til they cant be seen in a feed, and promote the paid ones to the front page 100% of the time. much like how youtube does it, the most “paid” popular channels get 100% front page coverage.
Sure, until they A- arbitrarily change that once people have gotten used to the new normal, or B- game the system and find an excuse to kill off profitable subreddits knowing the community will just turn around and spin off a new one… thus having to start requiring a subscription.
That’s how it always starts, then they’ll widen it a bit more “Ok now we’ll include subreddits that were created within 3 months of announcement” then a bit more “ok now within a year” then a bit more “ok now if it’s a buy/sell subreddit with > 1M subs”
And then before you know it, you need to pay 1.99/month to access r/memes.
Oh but don’t worry! I’m sure they’ll come out with an “unlimited” tier that’s 49.99/month!
Assuming that’s true, all they have to do is close down any sub they want a subscription from. New sub is made, new sub is required.
Subreddit takes on a whole new meaning.
That’s assuming they don’t look at a sub and just say “you’re now paid, congrats” and the mods just go along with it. I can see greedy mods seeing the ability to profit from that kind of forceful hand and then complaining about disengagement.
It’s not like a company would ever lie to the public for money. They definitely wouldn’t ever think of slowly rolling back free services and monetizing them… I mean where would anyone even get that idea about a tech company?
I’m having a good time with my popcorn!
Just keep doing the Fediverse favors Steve!
Is fine hosting nazis and now is getting internal paywalls. I didn’t know spez wanted to be Substack so bad.
CEO, tell me you don’t know what your doing without saying you don’t know what you are doing.
You’re, please.
Damn, thanks.
Reddit executives also discussed how they might introduce more ads into the social media platform.
Oh how exciting!
I forget the word for this, outpoopification? Insufficification? It escapes me.
Xitterfecation
Spezification?
enshittification
Diarheageddon
I hate reddit as much as the next guy but from time to time I find myself searching in subreddit like newborns, New parents etc. These subreddits do have a lot of experience shared from the past which has not yet come over to lemmy. And now reddit is pulling this subscription shenanigans I’m like WTF??
The article says it won’t affect existing free subreddits. It’s also worth pointing out that Reddit Lounge (a subreddit exclusive to Reddit premium members) has been a thing for a long time. So really, this probably isn’t that big of a deal, Reddits most profitable asset is its huge user base and I don’t think they’re dumb enough to torpedo it. Then again, look at what happened to tumblr, you never know…
Reddit lounge was innocuous, and not at all the same. (Even if the basic mechanic is the same.)
Idiots will absolutely drop a dollar chasing a nickel, but still believe they were so clever that they came out ahead. I wouldn’t put any amount of stupidity past them at this point.
The article says it won’t affect existing free subreddits
for now…
Last post was a week ago! Pretty fresh!
