Yeah I’m sure that’s it, you nailed it. It turns out that everyone that disagreed with you last year was actually a secret Russian agent. It’s definitely not that primaries and the run up to the presidential election are unique opportunities to push the Democratic candidates father left. Who knew?!
They all went to Jill Stiens cave to hibernate until next general election.
Misinformation but if that makes you feel better feel free to believe that.
Whats the misinformation?
Pro-Palestinian advocates are literally protesting in front of the White House as I type this. You are lying.
You’re not wrong. I don’t truly know if Jill Stien voters went into a geological structure underground to lay down and sleep for four years. I don’t honestly believe that is humanly possible.
You really solved the case on this one, detective. Good job.
they were getting paid by the same people, so this makes perfect sense
Why aren’t y’all as vocal about an ongoing genocide as you are about a completely failed candidate from months ago?
Probably because they like the hateful things he’s doing. Bunch of hypocrites
Because it’s accelerationists cosplaying as leftists.
*antisemitic accelerationists (who were still in fact leftists natch)
Wtf are you talking about? Free Palestine protesters are still actively organizing their communities and providing support where they can. The same groups are literally still staging actions and fighting for the freedom, liberatation, and survival of Palestinian people at home and abroad. Who do you think you’re clowning on with this meme? The people fighting against genocide didnt just give up because we have a new worse president.
With that kind of “support”, why have enemies? The Free Palestine movement is doing their opposition’s work far better than they could. Helping along the movement’s self-defeating strategy could be their best move: with a few more antagonistic governments, the Palestinian cause will be over in no time.
They are not supporting you, idiot. They support genocide victims.
They are not supporting you, idiot.
That’s a relief.
They support genocide victims.
And look at the encouraging results! I don’t know what those poor souls did to deserve that “support”. They’re truly unfortunate.
gENoCidE
“I started ignoring the pro-Palestinians because I decided I don’t care anymore. Where did all the pro-Palestinians go?” -OP
The people “fighting against genocide” in exactly one place in the world and no others played a not insignificant role in why we have a new worse president in the first place.
America and the west is so racist even the rise of fascism is blamed on brown people
Blame the people who support genocide, not those who oppose it. jfc libs.
in exactly one place in the world and no others
Where else is USA supporting genocide? Where else are you supporting genocide?
When there are exactly two options before you, and one of them will be selected, and neither one is perfect, and you spend all your effort bitching about the least bad choice, you’re helping get the most bad choice selected.
Good work.
Despite what you may have been led to believe, anti-genocide groups have never spent “all their effort” on electoral politics. You’re choosing to spend your time right now bitching about those fighting oppression rather than joining the fight.
Good work.
How many comments have you made about what China is doing to the Uighurs?
I’m an anarchist not a tankie thank you. Typical lib behaviour to assume though. Very helpful to your case.
So none then?
In addition to the other replies, there’s also quite a large difference between the actions of a foreign government doing something our current government already considers human rights abuse and the actions of a foreign government defended by our own, carried out with weapons manufactured and supplied by us, and where any criticism or protest of said support is categorized by nearly every politician as either antisemitism or tacit support of republican extremism. Both are genocide, but trying to protest the actions of the Chinese government as a US citizen in the US is pretty pointless, it’s better to focus efforts where it has a more direct impact. You don’t need to evenly split your attention between every single issue in order to be allowed to talk about any of them.
I align with what Twiddle is saying and as for me, plenty, across multiple platforms. Genocide is bad whether you choose to pay attention or not. Thank you for asking!
Don’t worry, their efforts here have not only made sure THAT genocide keeps going, and the Palestine one gets worse, but also the new Axis powers now have America in their pocket. So we will get to have even more genocides for them to protest from prison. Good job everyone!!
Most Palestine spaces banned anyone who explained why Trump was objectively worse so yes, the ones who created those echo chambers and participated spreading those narratives to the wider population deserve to be called on it.
We are. Your options were genocide and uber genocide.
So they picked genocide instead of rebelling? What a bunch of pieces of shit lmao
They’re literally at the White House as we speak lol…
The real question is why is OP still supporting a genocide now that it’s trump in office and not Biden.
Like, it apparently wasn’t about blind loyalty to Biden, they just authentically support genocide.
Rather alarming number of people I’ve encountered in the UK have a view something like “it’s horrible, but they brought it on themselves”. These don’t seem to be straightforward horrible people. As they would also say the Holocaust and Armenia and Rwanda (etc) were evil.
Literally today. Just because you don’t give a shit about Palestine and are ignoring their struggle, doesn’t suddenly make it stop. The same groups who were protesting the genocide when it was happening under Biden are still out there protesting.
I can’t help but feel like the Dems end goal with this kinda bullshit is to try and manufacture this idea that leftist outrage over Gaza is entirely fabricated. We couldn’t really care about brown people, we must have made up a bunch of nasty lies to make Kamala Harris look bad! It’s really self-telling that they can’t imagine genocide would be a bridge too far.
you don’t give a shit about Palestine and are ignoring their struggle
Beggaring the question is bad-faith.
Making posts asking why something that’s literally happening and being reported in the news isn’t happening is also bad faith so…
Why aren’t you with them?
How is asking why someone isn’t at a protest “not civil”?
Which protests did you go to today?
I think we just thought it was pretty silly of them to think Trump was gonna be better.
Pretty much no one thought he’d be better, more like not worse in a meaningful way. Obviously saying the US is going to turn Gaza into a resort is worse than not saying that, but that distinction is pretty unimportant to everyone who would be killed or driven out under a democratic president anyway. The end goal has always been to fully settle Palestine, what exact form that takes or whether the US funds it with a smile or a frown doesn’t change that.
Pretty much everyone thought he would be much worse, and that’s what we’ve got.
Worse in general or just in regard to Palestine? Obviously he’s so much worse in general, which is why I did vote for Harris. But specifically on the issue of Palestine no matter what the genocide wasn’t stopping, the Biden admin made it pretty clear there wasn’t actually a red line Israel could cross that would end the supply of weapons, considering every one they did make was blown past with no consequences. And Harris repeatedly signified that wouldn’t have changed.
But it’s also not productive to try and assign blame to people who didn’t vote, or voted 3rd party, though. The problem isn’t that people didn’t want to vote for the conservative party instead of the fascist party, its that we only had those 2 options to pick from. Obviously one of them was less harmful overall, but that doesn’t make them meaningfully better for Palestine, or even a good/appealing choice. Our entire political system was built to represent slaveowners and rich white men, and that’s so deeply ingrained into every aspect of its design that there’s no way to move away from those roots from within the system. Even if Trump lost this time, what’s stopping him from running again? Or the next version of him? Or what about the continued corporate capture of the government and both parties? None of those can just be voted away, and placing responsibility for fixing things entirely on voting just wastes time that would be better spent organizing while they continue to fester and grow.
We correctly thought Trump would be worse in regard to Palestine, e.g. with things like supporting forced removal/ethnic cleansing like he did yesterday.
Like I said, coming out and saying he supports the forced removal of Palestinians is awful, and neither Biden or Harris would have done that obviously. It seems pretty obvious neither of them are actually happy with Israel. But whether the US president is happy about it or not, lsraels end goal is and always has been ethnic cleansing either way. So while it is worse to express support for that goal than to express disapproval, as long as the US keeps up the supply of weapons - which we will almost assuredly do no matter what, Trump or otherwise - then to all the people being ethnically cleansed it doesn’t mean anything. The Biden administration has been expressing support for this since at least 2023, via its actions rather than words. That’s what people mean by Trump not being meaningfully worse for Palestine. Not that he isn’t worse than Biden or Harris, but that the ways in which he is worse on this specific issue don’t matter to the people who are actively the targets of the genocide. If you’re being bombed by US funded weapons then who gives a shit what the person approving those weapons says about it, they sent them either way.
I don’t think the dems care about leftists it’s other leftists who are saying yous have been had.
If you seriously think the Dems haven’t been spending every day since they lost the election punching left, I’ve a bridge to sell you.
Examples? Top posts of the past month for r/politics there’s literally nothing. Got bored scrolling.
It matters if lay people are aware. I think the post is a useful signal that awareness of the issue is getting drowned out by everything else falling apart.
Idk if you know this but there is a ceasefire right now. Most of the protests i went to were in response to some escalation or atrocity: new “aid” package being sent, expansion of the war into Rafah, expansion into Lebanon, ground forces going in etc. People tend to protest against escalation events but we are currently in a period of deescalation.
You should expect to see them again in response to trump’s latest proposal, it’s not going to happen overnight since this came out of nowhere, or when the first phase of the ceasefire expires and people protest to keep it going.
Also wtf is this aneurysm posting “it went from free Palestine to the Rivera of the middle east in 16 days” what does that even mean? And they say the pro-palestine people are bots.
gr8b8m8
Is it? it’s so owrn out it’s not even mediocre at this point.
Those same folks where never going to support anything regardless. Biden is too old! Genocide Joe! Trump will fix it! Nothing but bullshit all the way down.
We do. If we couldn’t convince fucking Biden why do you think Trump is gonna care
Some of the American ones got their faces eaten by leopards:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-arab-americans-michigan-gaza-plan-6014edae5196aa5bc2c1681452ec4cf8
“Many people expressed that concern, that maybe it was a mistake to vote for President Trump,” Hamad added.
Some Arab Americans who voted for Trump say they are concerned about his picks for key positions
Looks like outside the White House today…
Why are people still shitting on the people protesting genocide now that Biden isn’t in charge?
I thought it was blind loyalty to the letter D, but if that was the case you’d be against genocide now…
“I closed my eyes, why can’t I see anything?” -OP
where did the free Palestine protestors go
Well a bunch of them got expelled, deported, blacklisted, arrested, and more. Many of their organizations were forcibly disbanded, and the campuses where they were active have been thoroughly militarized.
Tbf he did tell us he was going to do this before the election, but “blue maga” was in vogue at the time.
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