On the one hand, sure, oracle rep could have handled it better
But on the other hand…
The TOS do say you are only eligible to sign up once
Now, on the not telling you the reason why the shutoff happened, it’s totally logical. No company will let you know what was the TOS violation to help you or others to avoid future detection and commit fraud. Anyone on IT knows this.
Not saying the guy did it, but apparently Oracle believes they did. It’s the same as Google. One simple fuck up on an add in adwords and your account is screwed for life. Could be for the most innocuous of things, like a flag raised by usage patterns, or going to the extremes, a possible compromised instance got nuked preemptively
In any case always remember that the resources occupied in a free instance may and will be freed up when needed without warning.
And if stuff is THAT IMPORTANT, always go on prem , with at least two different providers for cloud services and backup
Also, read the terms of service. It’s not that hard
TikTok being forced to host on Oracle instead of Google/Microsoft all but confirms that Oracle is CIA Cloud.
This seems relevant https://youtu.be/0gQbM5lUU_8
a good reminder to back up your shit regardless of what service you’re using.
Historically, the only thing Oracle ever made which was good was their database, and even that is only worth it beyond a certain size of dataset and number of simultaneous requests being served.
Nice to know that they go above and beyond to uphold GDPR
We don’t move your data across borders… Because we don’t have it any more!
Oracle cares so much about your privacy they delete your data before you even send a request.
As someone who had that misfortune to work woth their products, this tracks just great. Honestly. I’ve used their Apex and SQL developer. Both of them are unintuitive to use, inconsistent, lacking features, and just a complete resource hogs in their own ways. Makes me wonder how they are still keeping themselves afloat, considering the abhorrent state and quality their products are.
We used JCaps for hospital interfaces… when the time came to renew licenses, they literally ghosted us until we just moved to a different engine
Oh god, Apex. I was trying to enjoy my morning. Unintuitive isn’t even the right way to describe it. It has to be the most complicated way to build an application and that’s just sticking with the templates. Even knowing what I would need to change would require guess work and 5 minutes of hunting to find the action that may not even work
I sincerely despise how it hides the primary keys of a table when creating a interactive grid with a form subpage for entering new data, I have to unhide the primary key twice, on two different places. I know it does that for the master details as well, and I think it does the same for reports as well. Like, come on! It’s so infuriating how much time i have to waste just changing the primary key to be visible. Won’t even gonna mention how much it’s necessary to scroll to change a field to a dropdown list. The RESTful services are at least somewhat straightforward. Really like when it gives me “Under unscheduled maintenance” and then I gotta figure if it’s my SQL or they being down for real… Also for some reason, all of Oracle’s pages just take foooreever to load on my network. It’s not my router, it’s not my connection, since all other websites just load fine…
In both cases, I was using Oracle products for seminar projects. Specifically for Apex, I had to make a simple database with 15 tables, and visualise all of them in the Apex as a page. I am empathetic to anyone who has to use either in a production environment on a real project…
Something about eggs in one basket.
Two baskets of eggs? Have you seen how much they cost?
what’s oracle?
One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.
Not just oracle. Couple years ago Google nuked an Australian pension fund cloud environment with no way to restore. Just poof all data gone.
Pretty sure Google did restore it, no? It was Google’s fuckup, but there were backups.
No, the org had their own backups because of compliance reasons.
thank fuck! Guidelines are written in blood, and lost bytes
That was mistake on Google part if I remember correctly, it wasn’t intentional.
Oopsie, the photos of your dead wife/husband/father/mother/pet/children are all gone. Pleasure doing bussiness with you! 🤗
We’re sowwwie.
My much brainier than me friend was telling me about the courses he was taking to apply to Oracle. I had to break it to him how far down they’ve fallen, and not to expect anything working for them. He’s smart, but not in the right social channels like the Fediverse to see what the real people are saying.
All of the tech people everywhere know about Oracle. You’d have to be actively avoiding the info, or be coming in from a completely different subculture at this point.
I have a very small wiki hosted on OCP. Good thing I have kept text backups of all the articles.
It’s the problem with their “always free” virtual machines. Use too much, and they delete it for abuse. Use just a little, and they delete it for inactivity.
Those aren’t free because Oracle is benevolent, but simply because probably they had a contract with Ampere to purchase millions of those arm server CPUs and they have vacancy
They’re “free” in the hope that they will catch a whale: someone gets used to their infrastructure with a test, then spin more paid virtual machines
If in a specific datacenter, suddenly a whale is asking more resources, the free ones are getting the cut
Ah but this guy said he was paying them, in this reply on Mastodon, and that in fact they didn’t even stop the charge for next month.
I’m kinda excited about my free tier. Gonna see what happens in the future.
This is exactly why you don’t use anything from Oracle, especially free stuff like OCP. If you think you’re not going to regret it eventually, you’re fucking wrong.
