The current literature shows growing evidence of a link between gender dysphoria (GD) and autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This study reviews the available clinical and empirical data. A systematic search of the literature was conducted using the following databases: PubMed, Web of Science, PsycINFO …
Research indicates that individuals with ASD are more likely to experience gender dysphoria, and vice versa.
This is a really good write up. It reflects my experience and understanding well.
If I can offer my opinion on the J6 types, I think we have to be careful not to present them as antithetical to the autistic way of thinking, because a lot of autistic people end up in those spaces. For some, the world and its norms become so inscrutable that they seek other sources of order. Religion and strictly defined politics can become a comfort, as illusory as they are.
So it may seem contradictory, but autistic people can swing hard away from social norms, but they can also swing hard into it. Because it’s a spectrum, defined by divergence, which can happen in any direction.
Autistic people do not inherently develop post conventional morality and the j6 types are not presented here as a counter to “autism” but as a counter to “post conventional morality”
There are many autistic people who are stuck in the early more stages focused on discipline and punishment. Many neurotypical ppl as well. These people are extremely susceptible to fascism because it appeals to simplistic morals based on “things need to go my way and if they don’t you need to get severe punishment”.
I would also suggest, based on the autistic people in my own family, that autistic people generally have a much more solid and developed sense of self than neurotypical people. So where a neurotypical person might think, “maybe I’m a woman, not a man, but could that be true? Should I tell the world?” an autistic person will think, “I am a woman. If you tell me I’m not a woman, you’re lying.”
The sense of self might be different for everyone or even among families with similar genetics and experiences. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple causes of autism.
However, for me I would say that I have a weak sense of identity of a self. It’s a I’m here as I am, in this moment and couldn’t possibly be anything else. Social expectations or a manufactured identity are not even considered, and would take too much energy.
You know how many people have a favorite team? They really identify with it, it’s THEIR favorite team. Like it is an inherent property of who they are.
Well from my perspective I don’t feel that. There may be a team I had nostalgia for and some good memories with. But does that make it mine?
However, if I was somehow officially a member of that team and people were telling me that I don’t belong there, I could not be personally convinced otherwise of something that is an obvious fact. I am, however I find myself to be and society can’t change that with words or expectations.
This is a really good write up. It reflects my experience and understanding well.
If I can offer my opinion on the J6 types, I think we have to be careful not to present them as antithetical to the autistic way of thinking, because a lot of autistic people end up in those spaces. For some, the world and its norms become so inscrutable that they seek other sources of order. Religion and strictly defined politics can become a comfort, as illusory as they are.
So it may seem contradictory, but autistic people can swing hard away from social norms, but they can also swing hard into it. Because it’s a spectrum, defined by divergence, which can happen in any direction.
I agree but to clarify:
Autistic people do not inherently develop post conventional morality and the j6 types are not presented here as a counter to “autism” but as a counter to “post conventional morality”
There are many autistic people who are stuck in the early more stages focused on discipline and punishment. Many neurotypical ppl as well. These people are extremely susceptible to fascism because it appeals to simplistic morals based on “things need to go my way and if they don’t you need to get severe punishment”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg’s_stages_of_moral_development
_These people would literally be in the first stage of the Heinz dilemma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma
Kohlbergs stages have valid criticisms (like they ignore the entire concept of collectivist cultures, for one) but they’re still a decent framework
I would also suggest, based on the autistic people in my own family, that autistic people generally have a much more solid and developed sense of self than neurotypical people. So where a neurotypical person might think, “maybe I’m a woman, not a man, but could that be true? Should I tell the world?” an autistic person will think, “I am a woman. If you tell me I’m not a woman, you’re lying.”
The sense of self might be different for everyone or even among families with similar genetics and experiences. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple causes of autism.
However, for me I would say that I have a weak sense of identity of a self. It’s a I’m here as I am, in this moment and couldn’t possibly be anything else. Social expectations or a manufactured identity are not even considered, and would take too much energy.
You know how many people have a favorite team? They really identify with it, it’s THEIR favorite team. Like it is an inherent property of who they are.
Well from my perspective I don’t feel that. There may be a team I had nostalgia for and some good memories with. But does that make it mine?
However, if I was somehow officially a member of that team and people were telling me that I don’t belong there, I could not be personally convinced otherwise of something that is an obvious fact. I am, however I find myself to be and society can’t change that with words or expectations.
Good reading. Thanks.