Research indicates that individuals with ASD are more likely to experience gender dysphoria, and vice versa.

  • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    I agree but to clarify:

    Autistic people do not inherently develop post conventional morality and the j6 types are not presented here as a counter to “autism” but as a counter to “post conventional morality”

    There are many autistic people who are stuck in the early more stages focused on discipline and punishment. Many neurotypical ppl as well. These people are extremely susceptible to fascism because it appeals to simplistic morals based on “things need to go my way and if they don’t you need to get severe punishment”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg’s_stages_of_moral_development

    _These people would literally be in the first stage of the Heinz dilemma

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma

    Kohlbergs stages have valid criticisms (like they ignore the entire concept of collectivist cultures, for one) but they’re still a decent framework

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      12 hours ago

      I would also suggest, based on the autistic people in my own family, that autistic people generally have a much more solid and developed sense of self than neurotypical people. So where a neurotypical person might think, “maybe I’m a woman, not a man, but could that be true? Should I tell the world?” an autistic person will think, “I am a woman. If you tell me I’m not a woman, you’re lying.”

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        8 hours ago

        The sense of self might be different for everyone or even among families with similar genetics and experiences. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple causes of autism.

        However, for me I would say that I have a weak sense of identity of a self. It’s a I’m here as I am, in this moment and couldn’t possibly be anything else. Social expectations or a manufactured identity are not even considered, and would take too much energy.

        You know how many people have a favorite team? They really identify with it, it’s THEIR favorite team. Like it is an inherent property of who they are.

        Well from my perspective I don’t feel that. There may be a team I had nostalgia for and some good memories with. But does that make it mine?

        However, if I was somehow officially a member of that team and people were telling me that I don’t belong there, I could not be personally convinced otherwise of something that is an obvious fact. I am, however I find myself to be and society can’t change that with words or expectations.