• weeeeum@lemmy.world
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    As it is currently, electric cars are worse for the environment because we all decided electric cars are basically the iphones of automobiles.

    They are riddled with planned obscelence and proprietary hardware. Theres not a chance in hell these would last longer than 10 years.

    Meanwhile ICE vehicles can easily last decades if well cared for

    I’m not shilling ICE vehicles, but stating the fact we NEED right to repair before we adopt electric vehicles on a large scale.

    Remember that capitalism WANTS our belongings to break, and WANTS to infinitely produce, and WANTS us to infinitely consume.

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      15 hours ago

      Biggest problem is not the engine in the car but the car itself. So much energy must go into their production, maintenance and running compared to literally any other form of land transport. Take a train, ride a bike, walk, etc. hell even replacing the cars with electric mopeds would make a more significant impact. We need to be reducing the number of cars on the road and encouraging carpooling for commuters who don’t have other options (aka mostly folks in rural areas who happen to also be those that will benefit the most financially from driving less)

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      Aside from the batteries needing to be replaced at some point, electric vehicles should far outlast their ICE counterparts. A significant breakthrough in batteries could make that well worth it.

      I’d love a right to repair, but also prefer to just get rid of capitalism. Not that these have to be mutually exclusive.

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        Yes, EVs should outlast ICE (excrept maybe the motors) but as it stands now, if theres something wrong with any of thr electronics it just won’t work, and you need to get it repaired, with special proprietary parts, from an official dealer ship and charges eye watering prices, so thr cars end up in the junkyard cause its too expensive to repair, and it becomes e-waste.

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          Electric motors last fucking forever. We had a lathe at the last place I worked that was made in Nazi Germany with its original electric motor. The motors are what makes it last so long. It’s the batteries and other electronics that fail in EVs. Ever been in a factory and seen those little yellow carts? Those things are ancient, poorly maintained, and exist in filthy conditions usually.

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            15 hours ago

            Half of my model trains date back to the 80s and earlier and have spent significant periods of that time just sitting unmaintained in boxes. No lube or anything, apply power and they just go. Good luck getting the same out of an ICE powered vehicle after just a couple of years of not being used. Electric motors are awesome!

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              Yep, and the funny thing is about EVs is that all the electronics that fail, are also on ICE vehicles these days.