Just so I understand, you’d rather wait around until the complete collapse of society rather than take five minutes to go vote, is that right? Because what, a democrat might accidently get elected and give you healthcare, but he might get some money from a corporation or something to do it so fuck that, right?
You understand that if things ever got bad enough for the system to collapse it would not be a communist paradise that arises from the ashes, right?
I seriously don’t understand you people. This is like chopping your whole hand off because your fingernails need trimming.
Edit: also, it has already collapsed. That should have been evident in the 2016 primaries.
You don’t actually own anything of value, like a house or a car, I take it.
Just so I understand, you’d rather wait around until the complete collapse of society rather than take five minutes to go vote, is that right?
Given this response, I’m guessing you read less than a paragraph in to my original response and decided you needed to wield your superior intellect and values and produce a “gotcha” response while not actually understanding what you were reading.
You don’t actually own anything of value, like a house or a car, I take it.
I own a relatively large house and multiple cars. I have a wife and a dog and a daughter and a granddaughter. I have lots of completely unnecessary consumer goods. Likely I’m more well off than you. Just because I can play and succeed in the capitalist game doesn’t mean I don’t recognize it for the oppressive system that it is and sympathize with the people that didn’t get as lucky as me.
You so badly want to pounce you have to build a straw man to dislike instead of trying to understand a perspective different from your own. You are a petty person.
Given this response, I’m guessing you read less than a paragraph in to my original response and decided you needed to wield your superior intellect and values and produce a “gotcha” response while not actually understanding what you were reading.
Couldn’t think of a witty comeback, huh?
I own a relatively large house and multiple cars. I have a wife and a dog and a daughter and a granddaughter.
You obviously don’t seem to care about the kind of country they grow up in, since you’re too lazy to do the absolute minimum required to prevent them from growing up in a fascist hellhole.
You so badly want to pounce you have to build a straw man to dislike instead of trying to understand a perspective different from your own. You are a petty person.
All I’m saying is that fascism is here, which side are you on? Because if you’re just going to sit this one out, then you’re on the side of the fascists.
You obviously don’t seem to care about the kind of country they grow up in
Fuck you, you absolute piece of shit.
Because if you’re just going to sit this one out, then you’re on the side of the fascists.
If you read and understood what I wrote you’d know that I’m not “sitting things out.” You keep accusing me of something I didn’t say.
The fascism has been in this country since day one. You’ve done absolutely nothing about it, and you only care about it when it’s not your guy doing the fascism-ing.
You are an incurious, illiterate, spiteful, petty person who shouldn’t be engaging with others.
I read it. I just don’t buy your bullshit excuse for not voting. That’s dumb. That’s like the kind of thing I would’ve said when I was an edgy thirteen year old.
Fuck you, you absolute piece of shit.
Hey, you’re the one who won’t get up off his lazy ass to go vote, not me. See what you’re not getting is that voting is not about you “Supporting a corrupt system.” It’s about you protecting the people you love. You have told me that you don’t give a shit enough to bother voting, so I must therefore come to the conclusion that there’s nothing and nobody you love.
It tells me you don’t care about justice, or the rule of law, or the economics of the downtrodden, or about giving people healthcare, or preserving the planet so they don’t live in a polluted shithole. These are all things that have a direct effect on your life, and the life of your wife, daughter, and grandchild -and by your inaction you’re complicit in allowing fascists to take power and create the policies governing these things. Like I said, who’s side are you on? Apparently you’re not even on your own family’s side.
You are an incurious, illiterate, spiteful, petty person who shouldn’t be engaging with others.
Hey I’m not sorry you got offended. Sounds like this is the first time anyone’s ever bother to tell you the truth about yourself.
The great thing about this country is that nobody forces you to do anything. Feel free to sit everything out if that satisfies whatever stupid corrupt moral requirements you’ve created for yourself. Just don’t try to pretend that you actually care about your country, your family, or anyone else if you can’t even bother to show up every four years to do the absolute minimum required to keep this country free.
I read it. I just don’t buy your bullshit excuse for not voting
You are, somehow, even worse than I originally thought.
Let me spell it out for you: I voted. I vote. I will vote. No, I didn’t say I did, you just assumed I didn’t and went ape shit about it. Despite the added context in the rest of my post, and despite me asking you to consider that you might be missing something.
I gave two different interpretations of what it could mean to not participate electorally, and you just decided that meant I don’t vote, then you repeatedly personally attacked me for it and accused me of not caring about my family. Even if I didn’t vote that’s a shitty thing a shitty person does.
What I don’t do is participate in electoral activities like running in elections or participating in campaigns. I also don’t hold the illusion that my vote does anything in elections at the national (or even higher state) level, so other activities (that I’m guessing you don’t bother participating in) are necessary. I also don’t tell others to vote or not vote. That’s completely up to them and it is not a goddamn reflection of their character.
You just couldn’t sus that out despite me telling you repeatedly that you did not understand what I originally said.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You are a goddamn shit stain on society.
Let me spell it out for you: I voted. I vote. I will vote. No, I didn’t say I did, you just assumed I didn’t and went ape shit about it. Despite the added context in the rest of my post, and despite me asking you to consider that you might be missing something.
See, if you would’ve just said this all in the beginning we could’ve avoided all this. Because it sounded to me - and to any other rational person reading your post - that you were making excuses for not voting. That’s why I bolded the text “No, I didn’t say I did.” You did not say you voted, so how am I supposed to know you did? Am I supposed to read your mind?
Still, it seems a bit like you’re still not understanding how important it actually is, so I refuse to apologize. I stand by every word, and I use this as my rationale:
I also don’t tell others to vote or not vote. That’s completely up to them and it is not a goddamn reflection of their character.
When one of the candidates is a fascist who’s going to hurt people and destroy democracy, then not voting against them kinda is a reflection on your character. It shows you don’t care enough about other people.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You are a goddamn shit stain on society.
I like how I’m the fascist, when I’m the one actually doing something to try and stop fascists and not the one making excuses for those who didn’t
when I’m the one actually doing something to try and stop fascists
What do you do besides vote and make an ass of yourself online (and then blame others for your own lack of reading comprehension skills?) You think voting once every four years for one flavor of fascist or another makes you antifa? JFC dude, you are politically illiterate in addition to being generally illiterate. You are the pigeon on the chess board.
You have no idea what praxis I engage in outside of participation in electoral politics, but it’s more than just voting.
Your unending smug assumptions are just more evidence that you are a terrible and insufferable person incapable of learning from mistakes. Now fuck off, I’m done with you.
What do you think a revolution is if not a collapse of the previous system?
Edit: also, it has already collapsed. That should have been evident in the 2016 primaries.
Just so I understand, you’d rather wait around until the complete collapse of society rather than take five minutes to go vote, is that right? Because what, a democrat might accidently get elected and give you healthcare, but he might get some money from a corporation or something to do it so fuck that, right?
You understand that if things ever got bad enough for the system to collapse it would not be a communist paradise that arises from the ashes, right?
I seriously don’t understand you people. This is like chopping your whole hand off because your fingernails need trimming.
Given this response, I’m guessing you read less than a paragraph in to my original response and decided you needed to wield your superior intellect and values and produce a “gotcha” response while not actually understanding what you were reading.
I own a relatively large house and multiple cars. I have a wife and a dog and a daughter and a granddaughter. I have lots of completely unnecessary consumer goods. Likely I’m more well off than you. Just because I can play and succeed in the capitalist game doesn’t mean I don’t recognize it for the oppressive system that it is and sympathize with the people that didn’t get as lucky as me.
You so badly want to pounce you have to build a straw man to dislike instead of trying to understand a perspective different from your own. You are a petty person.
Couldn’t think of a witty comeback, huh?
You obviously don’t seem to care about the kind of country they grow up in, since you’re too lazy to do the absolute minimum required to prevent them from growing up in a fascist hellhole.
All I’m saying is that fascism is here, which side are you on? Because if you’re just going to sit this one out, then you’re on the side of the fascists.
And you still didn’t read my original response.
Fuck you, you absolute piece of shit.
If you read and understood what I wrote you’d know that I’m not “sitting things out.” You keep accusing me of something I didn’t say.
The fascism has been in this country since day one. You’ve done absolutely nothing about it, and you only care about it when it’s not your guy doing the fascism-ing.
You are an incurious, illiterate, spiteful, petty person who shouldn’t be engaging with others.
I read it. I just don’t buy your bullshit excuse for not voting. That’s dumb. That’s like the kind of thing I would’ve said when I was an edgy thirteen year old.
Hey, you’re the one who won’t get up off his lazy ass to go vote, not me. See what you’re not getting is that voting is not about you “Supporting a corrupt system.” It’s about you protecting the people you love. You have told me that you don’t give a shit enough to bother voting, so I must therefore come to the conclusion that there’s nothing and nobody you love.
It tells me you don’t care about justice, or the rule of law, or the economics of the downtrodden, or about giving people healthcare, or preserving the planet so they don’t live in a polluted shithole. These are all things that have a direct effect on your life, and the life of your wife, daughter, and grandchild -and by your inaction you’re complicit in allowing fascists to take power and create the policies governing these things. Like I said, who’s side are you on? Apparently you’re not even on your own family’s side.
Hey I’m not sorry you got offended. Sounds like this is the first time anyone’s ever bother to tell you the truth about yourself.
The great thing about this country is that nobody forces you to do anything. Feel free to sit everything out if that satisfies whatever stupid corrupt moral requirements you’ve created for yourself. Just don’t try to pretend that you actually care about your country, your family, or anyone else if you can’t even bother to show up every four years to do the absolute minimum required to keep this country free.
You are, somehow, even worse than I originally thought.
Let me spell it out for you: I voted. I vote. I will vote. No, I didn’t say I did, you just assumed I didn’t and went ape shit about it. Despite the added context in the rest of my post, and despite me asking you to consider that you might be missing something.
I gave two different interpretations of what it could mean to not participate electorally, and you just decided that meant I don’t vote, then you repeatedly personally attacked me for it and accused me of not caring about my family. Even if I didn’t vote that’s a shitty thing a shitty person does.
What I don’t do is participate in electoral activities like running in elections or participating in campaigns. I also don’t hold the illusion that my vote does anything in elections at the national (or even higher state) level, so other activities (that I’m guessing you don’t bother participating in) are necessary. I also don’t tell others to vote or not vote. That’s completely up to them and it is not a goddamn reflection of their character.
You just couldn’t sus that out despite me telling you repeatedly that you did not understand what I originally said.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. You are a goddamn shit stain on society.
See, if you would’ve just said this all in the beginning we could’ve avoided all this. Because it sounded to me - and to any other rational person reading your post - that you were making excuses for not voting. That’s why I bolded the text “No, I didn’t say I did.” You did not say you voted, so how am I supposed to know you did? Am I supposed to read your mind?
Still, it seems a bit like you’re still not understanding how important it actually is, so I refuse to apologize. I stand by every word, and I use this as my rationale:
When one of the candidates is a fascist who’s going to hurt people and destroy democracy, then not voting against them kinda is a reflection on your character. It shows you don’t care enough about other people.
I like how I’m the fascist, when I’m the one actually doing something to try and stop fascists and not the one making excuses for those who didn’t
This is my shocked face.
What do you do besides vote and make an ass of yourself online (and then blame others for your own lack of reading comprehension skills?) You think voting once every four years for one flavor of fascist or another makes you antifa? JFC dude, you are politically illiterate in addition to being generally illiterate. You are the pigeon on the chess board.
You have no idea what praxis I engage in outside of participation in electoral politics, but it’s more than just voting.
Your unending smug assumptions are just more evidence that you are a terrible and insufferable person incapable of learning from mistakes. Now fuck off, I’m done with you.