Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote

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    That was fast. Almost as if they already had an implementation in place controlling content since the start of the app.

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      I just got my account yesterday.

      After signing up the day before.

      And I’ll say, having never used TikTok, I don’t actually know how they compare to each other…

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        I never checked it out but the biggest issue for social media is always content. Does Loops have a lot/good content or is it dead?

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          It’s still beta as far as I can tell, I wouldn’t go expecting billions of users generating your entertainment for you

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    This is my surprised face 😐 because that’s exactly what I expected to happen.

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      Is… China in support of the Palestinian genocide? They’ve been very vocally critical of Israel throughout the past year…

      This is like. AmericaTok. America is the nation that engages in by far the most Palestinian genocide denialism.

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      I dont care about TikTok, I don’t care about rednote. I’m just happy people are trying new things. I feel some people here underestimate the percentage of the people online who will avoid trying new things.

      Think of how many people just have facebook and/or google be “the internet”. They underestimate the things the average users will put up with to avoid having to switch services/operating systems and so on.

      This is a good thing, even if they aren’t going to a service you prefer.

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      Are there any other popular short-form content alternatives right now? Insta sucks and Loops is very much not ready yet.

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    Not an adjustment, it’s literally always been that way.

    Loops.video, or at least Bluesky.

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      Bluesky will meet the same fate. It’s “federated” mostly in name only.

      Loops is promising though, but it’s obviously not polished enough or ready for mass use yet

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      anything with enough money behind it will enshitify and you’ll find yourself looking for an alternative again in the future.

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    Tiktok has always been like this.

    Their comment system is absolutely broken and actually it’s probably on purpose. 90% of these comments get restored on appeal but they are already burried deep so it’s very popular moderation strategy where the system relies on correction to appear safe an intelligent but the correction ends up being irrevant in the grand scale of things.

    Same thing with Twitter community notes which add context when everyone already read the tweet to give an illusion of moderation and safety.

    As an engineer I’m honestly very impressed by the effectivenes of this strategy — it’s brilliant despite, you know, being evil — and it’ll take public a while to catch up.

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      It’s a problem with YouTube too. I would say that at least 40% of my comments end up removed.

      They also like to rub my nose in it by sending me notifications from whatever thread I replied to.

      I’d love to have a decent alternative.

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      And removing the thumbs down count was very damaging, I think. You can see that 60 people support Hitler but you have to install an add on to know that 300 people didn’t agree with that garbage. It’s a mess.

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      Literally only one of those is a legitimate political position. “Taiwan Independence”. And it’s a position you’re allowed to broadcast on RedNote if you show any sort of knowledge and tact.

      Hong Kong was liberated in 97, and apartheid was slowly dismantled afterwards, and they’ll eventually be liberated from liberalism and then capitalism when it’s possible. Nothing platitudes don’t make that happen faster. If you care about the liberation of Hong Kongers, then do real political activism in Hong Kong with real policy suggestions.

      What does remember Tienanmen Square 1989 mean? Because to me and any reasonable content moderator, it looks like you’re trying to say “People died, be angry!” as opposed to actually advocating or cautioning about anything actionable. Are you making an anti-CIA appeal? Anti-IMF? Pro-IMF? Pro-Mao? Anti-Deng? Are you trying to say “If the soldiers weren’t unarmed, we could’ve avoided bloodshed”? Because then you’re basically saying soldiers acting as police should’ve shot then innocent people, which is illegal. You’re advocating for violence, of course that’s going to be removed by moderators. Of course you’re not actually trying to say anything at all, because you are both politically illiterate, and because you know nothing of the event. Instead what you’re trying to say is “I’ve seen a lot of photos of tank man, and I heard the Chinese censored news about the gunfights, I am very invested in that act of censorship failing because my government told me to be”. That’s not advocating for anything, you’re just attacking the state, armed with rumour. Outside of China, in most countries, you’re allowed to do that. But that doesn’t make it not trolling.

      Xi Jingping, the normal-skinned human is not a yellow bear. If you want to call Xi greedy or a messy eater or whatever else you imagine Winnie The Pooh communicates beyond a stereotype attacking all east Asians, then say that instead. Because otherwise it’s just going to look like you’re being racist, which should be removed.

      Why when you want to demonstrate censorship on Rednote do you choose topics which legitimately should be moderated, if only for community vibes. Do you want ‘Free Speech Absolutist’ edgelords setting the tone for the platform?

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      The difference here is that TikTok did not enforce censorship on content related to the genocide in Palestine, nor did it have a right-wing bias in the algorithm like, say, Twitter does.

      This shift in censorship puts TikTok in line with Twitter and Facebook/Instagram on the propaganda narrative that they want on their platform. Which is a massive issue for anybody left of white supremacists who cares about free speech and facts.

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        It was like two months ago tiktok was used to get a random hard right guy to win the Romanian elections

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        nor did it have a right-wing bias

        looks at how they promote AfD influencers in Germany, and how they promoted targeted videos to try to elect a neo-nazi in Romania

        It doesn’t have what?

        Well arguably it has whatever-destabilizes-the-country-the-most bias, but for most of the western world this mostly means they have a pro local fascists bias.

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      Yes, you’re right. “This population under a genocide should liberated” and “Chinese man is yellow bear lol” are equivalent forms of conversation. Absolutely heroic.

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        I’m not following the logic, do they censor content differently based on the country of the account holder??

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          You’re right, that would be a concern if I felt important enough for China to give a fuck about me and what I have to say as a foreign national. Too bad that me only exists in your imagination and the real me understands that the world does not revolve around their travel and internet activity.

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      Poor baby doesn’t get to (1) call for violence on an international scale (2) Commit blood libel, or (3) Be openly racist

      Typical western liberal

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          You are a profoundly unserious person if you equate the 100 year lease of Hong Kong, that was signed at the point of a gun, ending for the Brit*sh and ownership reverting to the Chinese with the genocide of the Palestinians by the settler colonial state.

          You’re just being a vulgar imperialist. I didn’t read further.

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              You’re reading comprehension

              Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.

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                  Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.

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          equal as much call for violence “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”

          No there fucking isn’t. First of all, Hong Kong has been a part of China a great many centuries before the US had started their first genocide (and boy did they start early) and was wrested from them by colonial violence, like Palestine was wrested by the colonizing Europeans. Violence of the oppressed isn’t equal to the violence of the oppressor as much as libs like to clutch their pearls about it, the most unspeakable violence is what’s happening BY NOT FREEING PALESTINE.

          “Free Hong Kong” coming from fucking westerners is as disgusting as “Free Panama” was and “Free Texas” way back when. It means “free to be looted by US” and fuck everyone who still does the legwork for imperialists.

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      Instead of this comment, you could have recommended mastodon.

      Why don’t you want mastodon to succeed? Is your pride and vanity worth more then the fediverse?

      • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I do recommend and use Mastodon. I even have a link to my Mastodon profile in my Lemmy Bio. I recommend other parts of the Fediverse as well, Firefish, Sharkey, Misskey, Iceshrimp, Mbin, WriteFreely, PeerTube, Owncast, Pixelfed, Loops, Castopod and others are all great platforms.

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      The absolute irony of the person posting clown emojis being a clown themselves.

      Liberals really can’t do anything but project, huh?

      The world sees you for the fool you are.

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        I think their eluding to the federated/decentralized equivalent. There’s little difference in switching sides to another state moderated app xD