hoodatninja

But also back in my day they taught us Word, Excel, programming

Well that’s an anecdote which I can easily counter with my own: We all immediately got around any firewalls the school had (which were a joke, you just browsed the right path and basically got around it) and played game and all sorts of nonsense at school.

Smartphones are here. Ban them all you want, kids get around it. Build a faraday cage, and your next active shooter gets extra time to do their work as teachers hunt for a landline. The list of cons vastly outweighs the pros. Hell just have a damn basket kids drop their phones in when they come into class. That’s still better than this nonsense.

Prohibition culture is generally a bad idea. You can’t tell kids “don’t have sex.” You do proper sex ed. You can’t block all signals out of a school, you create consequences for continued undesired usage and teach kids responsibility. As the original comment said: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/443382/Why-must-we-be-done-this-way#entry-comment-2266000

Your line of thinking is what leads to rampant banning and garbage blanket solutions instead of education.

I’m sorry - computers and the Internet are “just tools” but smart phones are not? Do I really need to unpack that?

Dude, I understand the logic behind Gitmo, we have all had 20 years to figure it out. That’s not the point. You said we are in line with a International laws, but we bend and break them at will constantly, because the US can essentially shrug and go “what are you gonna do about it?” We do it all the time. We are seen as one notch better than a schoolyard bully by many countries. Gitmo is grey area at best partially because we would never let another country do that to our citizens.

We don’t live in that world anymore.

Schools got by fine without the Internet until probably the mid-2000s. They got by fine without computers until probably the 90s. You can make that argument about literally anything in a school right now. We live in a society built around smart phones and tablets. We can’t just pretend we don’t.

It’s incredibly unsafe when you live in a society built around smartphones/tablets for health and safety tools to remove said smartphones.

A faraday cage is a fun thought exercise but wholly impractical. A lot of emergency systems - such as amber alerts - rely on their connectivity. A lot of schools also give out laptops/tablets.

War crimes are taken to US courts, offenders prosecuted and jailed.

Sometimes.

I have very little faith the person you’re responding to even acknowledges the existence of ADHD .

I don’t think y’all realize that not a single staff member or administrator or any employee of the school would be able to use a phone either (other than landlines I guess?). Schools aren’t just full of students lol

I mean I’m not that extreme lmao that’s also a safety issue. Kids will be kids, they will not sit quietly all school day and be total lesson sponges lol

I mean it kind of needs to be both. But it’s hard to find a compelling reason why kids need their smartphones fully accessible during class.

Memes like this, at least to me, mostly accomplish two things:

1. some people get to enjoy mocking a group of people that align with their values in more ways than they don’t.
2. some people feel dissuaded from doing anything.

We don’t know when small actions added up will make a difference or perhaps even lead to bigger actions. But I just don’t think, as a general rule, we should sit at our computers mocking those who spend their time doing something productive or at least attempting to make things a tiny bit better.

So in this case: help get Pikachu a firehouse. Or go find a squirtle to help. Perhaps you have a better solution on hand and you two can work together. Either way, pointing at him and mocking his attempts to be helpful, even if they maybe won’t solve the issue, just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

You shouldn’t make any assumptions that depend on Reddit functioning properly or there being any logic to its disjointed systems lol