What makes you think I’m incapable of caring or that i assume others are?

Ermm… should i post pics of my unibrow? My post history is 90% spanish. My entry point is from a chilean server in which I actively participate… Why is this even relevant though?

The only water I’m carrying is the one that nurtures universal empathy. Maybe you should take a sip. It’s very healing.

Ok, non-friend. I’m sorry for attempting to extend consideration towards you.

Then we can agree on something, at least partially. Have a nice day and I’m sorry if I upset you.

Do you believe in the universality of human rights?

I’m not a white male, friend.

Maybe, but I don’t feel particularly invested in any war thing.

Polarization does get to me sometimes, but I feel like my contributions regarding that issue constitute legitimate efforts.

How is it bad faith?

Edit: Seriously, could someone please explain how my phrasing is inflammatory?

The blue genocidal party lost just as I told them they would if they didn’t listen and stop doing genocide. So I guess I’ve been vindicated in my demands they stop.

Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you’ve done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?

Are you really going to debate bro me on whether I assumed you to be a white male or not?

Yes, this is definitely what I want to do with my afternoon (this is actually not sarcastic). Did I remove any relevant context? Please elaborate if you care to continue this surreal tangent.

You placed “white males” as a standalone group in your comment.

I did.

white males are not seperate from other groupings of people dismissing the struggles of other groups

Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you’ll find something interesting.

Oh, you just are a debate bro

I’m unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.

this is when you, sarcastically, pushed the white male victimhood narrative.

Erm… So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims? I’m sorry but I disagree.

my rebuttal of the white male victimhood narrative signals to you that I support white males being victims

No. I think you may have a fixation with victimhood and its implications on the value and humanity of people, and I think you’ve pushed this fixation in every point during this exchange, projecting it into my arguments.

rank white males at the top of a victimization totem pole.

This is another example of the former. You seem to be under the impression that victimization is a ranking system.

Maybe I should clarify. Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.

The reason behind this is that without that basic extension of empathy, all possibilities of consensus are lost before a conversation even begins. Do I always extend these basic forms of empathy to everyone? No, sometimes I’m a dick, but I do try.

My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn’t imply i consider them victims. I don’t.)

What I’m currently trying to convey now is that victimization is not a ranking system, friend. And voting or not voting for someone is not an effective course of action to solve anything you truly care about.

I’m sorry people you care about are suffering. <3

Edit: I don’t think I did, and I honestly have no use for information regarding your sex, gender or ethnicity.

Maybe do some self reflection and growth

This is universally good advice.

The most basic thing I’ve done was demanding the genocidal party stops doing the genocide if they want my support which I’ve done since oct-8, their refusal to listen doesn’t change my demands or how serious I was in those convictions.

How’s that been working for you?

Did I?

I believe you did. You referred to me “doing it to them (other people)”. I’m other people.

You pushed the white male victimhood narrative

Did I? I didn’t, in any way, make a judgement on the value or ethical implications of the dehumanization of white men (even the poor ones). I didn’t imply it was right or wrong. I merely suggested, sarcastically, that it was a big factor in losing the election.

You seem to be under the impression that this dehumanization is warranted, though. Do you think this mindset helps the problems that our societies and democracies are currently facing?

Do you think ranking people regarding their levels of assumed victimization due to ethnic, sexual or identity backgrounds is something desirable in general?

Food for thought, my friend.

Who cares about genocide and actual demonization of immigrants.

I mean… Do you? What things are you doing to address these issues?

Edit: Also, did you assume I’m a white male? I’m not.

It does, doesn’t it? My font has betrayed me!

Hey, I’m not hyped. More like mesmerized.

The fun kind. ;)

Buena perspectiva, y creo que tienes razón.

Creo q a china va a seguir hueveando de todas maneras. Gran parte de su “marca”. A EU lo podría dejar botado pero no creo que le convenga estratégicamente. Dejar de apoyar EU es dejarle todo en bandeja a putin, y no creo que los servicios de inteligencia lo dejen.

Y Putin? No sé, pero a ese le tengo miedo. Seguramente va a seguir haciendo lo q mejor hace… agarrar todo lo que pueda sin que le caigan misiles nucleares.

Y no puedo estar más de acuerdo con tu último punto. Somos más colonia o estado cliente que país soberano, y estas cosas pegan juerte.

Lo siento, y lamento que lo estés pasando mal. <3

Amigo, te comparto mi perspectiva, aplicable no sólo acá sino para cualquier elección, sea donde sea y salga quién salga:

Mejor Escenario: Se soluciona la crisis climática, los ecosistemas se sanan y vuelven sustentables, se acaba la guerra en el mundo y todos gozamos de más privilegios económicos, acceso a servicios básicos y el mundo se vuelve un lugar paradisíaco.

Curso de acción idóneo: Hacer lo mejor que se pueda, y cuidar los vínculos importantes.

Peor escenario: Se destruye completamente la ecología, el cambio climático arrasa con ciudades, guerra nuclear irrumpe en todos lados, la economía global se cae a pedazos. Hambre, enfermedad, injsticia, genoicidio, muerte y devastación. Extinción de la raza humana.

Curso de acción idóneo: Hacer lo mejor que se pueda, y cuidar los vínculos importantes.

Si no hay nada que cambie dentro de nuestro espectro de decisiones, pueden ocurrir muchas tragedias, pero no son realmente problemas… Sino pérdidas que tendremos que asimilar cuando toquen.

Le sugiero seguir con tranquilidad y convicción en seguir trabajando para las cosas que le importan. El resto es ruido.

Surely it had nothing to do with denying the humanity, feelings and fears of white males for decades, especially the poor ones.

Yeah, I’m sure it was about the latest hype war thing everyone gets so invested in yet no one does anything about beyond participating in thinly veiled socialization rituals and including symbols of support into their wardrobes and memes.

Me gusta! Lo voy a ocupar. Jajaja. Que tengas un gran día!

Sip, ya jue. Pobre kamalita. Me caía bien.

Qué manera de farrearse esta elección los demócratas. Primero querían mandar a Munra el Inmortal denuevo, después poner a esta mujer todo improvisado… y todo con el mismo discursito de siempre, igualdad para tod@s, pero negando cualquier necesidad de la demográfica que permite que salgan locos como Trump: Hombres blancos pobres.

Muéstrame en qué minuto se acepta que los hombres blancos son humanos y también tienen necesidades en cualquier parte de la extensa declaración de intenciones del partido demócrata. Menciones de todas las razas, preferencias sexuales, identidades, etc etc pero… “hombres blancos? Mejor ignorémoslos por décadas y tirémosle las culpas de nuestra sociedad. Qué es lo peor que podría pasar?”

Y créanme que para mí no es tema de que sean más o menos víctimas que nadie, sino netamente práctico. Van a votar por la persona o el partido que sientan que los valida.

Ahora nuevamente tenemos un estafador de emperador global por esta obstinación e incompetencia.

Hmph!