Lefties characterize much of labor under capitalism as wage slavery that builds profit off of injured bodies. And they seek to undo those conditions. Are you aware of anyone here that looks at those who must injure themselves to work and does not want that to go away?
Your responses here are a confused mileu. It seems like you know basically nothing about others’ stances but feel like you still deserve an (dismissive) opinion. Who taught you that this was okay?
I wonder who taught you to end every comment with an insult, trying to use shame to coerce silence instead of using rational thinking and supportive behavior to convince people on your ideas.
Or is your goal to just push people away and remind them of how they don’t want anything to do with the “left”
I wonder who taught you to end every comment with an insult,
I haven’t ended any comment with insults. I have called out poor behavior and racism/xenophobia, however.
My approach, generally speaking, is to engage fairly patiently and neutrally until it is clear that others are abusing this or if their behavior crosses serious lines like national chauvinism or ridiculous levels of condescension and bad faith, which is how you are approaching every disagreeing comment. Because at that point, ignoring the poor behavior tends to lead to it getting even worse.
trying to use shame to coerce silence
Look at how absurd this language is. You’d think I had arrested you and am now publicly berating you before throwing you in jail rather than correcting ignorant opinions and suggesting being less arrogant and national chauvinist when presented with disagreeing opinions.
There is no coercion in me telling you to be curious and humble or not national chauvinist. However, there is a ton of actual coercion in the sex industry. Try to have some perspective.
instead of using rational thinking and supportive behavior to convince people on your ideas.
I have presented rational thinking and look at how you and the Australian have responsed. And I would be happy to be supportive - so long as you recant the sinophobic statements and orientation you have presented. Because I’m not going to support that.
Or is your goal to just push people away and remind them of how they don’t want anything to do with the “left”
lmao you think growing the left is about tolerating arrogance and national chauvinism?
And sex work is coercive and exploitative, like all work. Sex workers are forced to play that role, just like we’re all forced to do our jobs. And what’s it called when you coerce someone for sex? Work is wage slavery, so what does that make sex work?
EDIT To clarify, I’m not speaking specifically about erotic literature. I actually don’t think it should be treated the same as all other so-called “sex work.” But no one should have to have sex with me just because I pay them.
And all work is coercive.
So what’s it called when you coerce someone for sex?
Oh so you want to abolish all farmers and factory work? Sorry, didn’t know I was talking to a a ComPrim.
Lefties characterize much of labor under capitalism as wage slavery that builds profit off of injured bodies. And they seek to undo those conditions. Are you aware of anyone here that looks at those who must injure themselves to work and does not want that to go away?
Your responses here are a confused mileu. It seems like you know basically nothing about others’ stances but feel like you still deserve an (dismissive) opinion. Who taught you that this was okay?
I wonder who taught you to end every comment with an insult, trying to use shame to coerce silence instead of using rational thinking and supportive behavior to convince people on your ideas.
Or is your goal to just push people away and remind them of how they don’t want anything to do with the “left”
I haven’t ended any comment with insults. I have called out poor behavior and racism/xenophobia, however.
My approach, generally speaking, is to engage fairly patiently and neutrally until it is clear that others are abusing this or if their behavior crosses serious lines like national chauvinism or ridiculous levels of condescension and bad faith, which is how you are approaching every disagreeing comment. Because at that point, ignoring the poor behavior tends to lead to it getting even worse.
Look at how absurd this language is. You’d think I had arrested you and am now publicly berating you before throwing you in jail rather than correcting ignorant opinions and suggesting being less arrogant and national chauvinist when presented with disagreeing opinions.
There is no coercion in me telling you to be curious and humble or not national chauvinist. However, there is a ton of actual coercion in the sex industry. Try to have some perspective.
I have presented rational thinking and look at how you and the Australian have responsed. And I would be happy to be supportive - so long as you recant the sinophobic statements and orientation you have presented. Because I’m not going to support that.
lmao you think growing the left is about tolerating arrogance and national chauvinism?
Critique of work isn’t monopolized by primmies. 🙄
I want a post-work society. Don’t you?
Yes and for that we need literal sci-fi technology.
Until that day we will need to work to some degree to uphold living.
Yes, we are limited by our material conditions. I’m not a moralist.
But sex work is not one of the forms of work we need to uphold living.
You certainly are a moralist.
Sex workers play an important role in society, especially in helping ND or otherwisely abeled people.
And sex work is coercive and exploitative, like all work. Sex workers are forced to play that role, just like we’re all forced to do our jobs. And what’s it called when you coerce someone for sex? Work is wage slavery, so what does that make sex work?
EDIT To clarify, I’m not speaking specifically about erotic literature. I actually don’t think it should be treated the same as all other so-called “sex work.” But no one should have to have sex with me just because I pay them.
I’d love to get paid for sex. Here I am, giving it away for free when I could be rich! ;)