• Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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    14 days ago

    ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken only enables a host of cross-contamination issues. Congratulations for turning your sink into a biohazard facility.

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      13 days ago

      Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it’s not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it’s the opposite… So washing the outside is useless.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        13 days ago

        Only if it’s a slab of meat, like a steak. Ground meat mixes up all those contaminants, so unless you grind it yourself from a slab with the outsides cut off (still iffy), cook your ground meat thoroughly (medium well is probably enough). You can get away with a sear on pretty fresh steak though.

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          And then there are the Germans, eating raw ground beef on a bun.
          It seems, you can get away with raw meat, if you buy it freshly ground from the butcher.

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            13 days ago

            On a bun? That’s Mett and it’s pork. Yes, ground raw pork. It’s quite tasty. Sprinkle of onion usually.

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              I buy my filet américain at my local grocery store. It is made of a beef/pork mix (the fancier the more beef) and usually has an expiry date of T+2 days thanks to the added preservatives.

              Industrially processing raw meat is perfectly doable, much to the Americans’ utter disbelief. Belgium has entire specialized industrial supply chains for the massive local demand of raw ground meat bread spread.

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                13 days ago

                Certainly, it’s just a lot more work than the less sanitary “chuck the extra meat into the grinder” method we use here.

                I’d love to try that raw beef spread BTW. I’ve had beef sashimi before, and it was great.

  • GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    So where I live, frozen chicken is cut on a wooden chopping board overlaid with pieces of the carton it came it. Without washing you’ll end up with random bits of cardboard, wood, fish fins and possibly sand.

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      13 days ago

      This is reasonable time to wash your chicken and also likely where this habit comes from. Before the age of factory farming and the advent of reliable home refrigeration a lot of meat was improperly stored before and after selling.

      Washing your produce was likely a good defense mechanism to wash away actual dirt, grime and bugs that may have adhered to it. Nowadays it’s largely unnecessary unless you’re still living in a place where butchering and processing techniques may not be of the greatest quality.

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      13 days ago

      If your meat is visibly dirty then sure, go ahead and rinse it, don’t be an idiot and eat wood. This conversation is people buying it from the grocery though.

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    13 days ago

    It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.

    Cook it thorougly. Use a meat thermometer to be sure and you’ll be fine.

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      13 days ago

      I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?
      There sure are plenty of ‘under no circumstances’ articles and testimonials parroting each other.

      Washing removes the gooey protein film on the surface, which otherwise ends up cooking into a egg-white-like membrane.

      You can also wipe it with a paper towel to accomplish the same.
      You should, at the very least, always dry your chicken to allow the surface to brown properly. Otherwise you end up with the hospital patient pale white.

      • reading around, it’s spreading the bacteria from the chicken to the environment thats the problem, so I was wrong there. Paper towel it is from now on.
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        It’s recommended you DON’T wash your chicken because that just throws bacteria around your kitchen.

        I believe that’s a myth. If you cook thoroughly, you don’t need to worry about bacteria. Why would it matter if its being moved around then?

        I think they mean that if you wash the chicken before cooking you might propel the not-yet-dead bacteria around your kitchen, which is worse than putting it all in the oven together to kill it.

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        13 days ago

        Yep, you nailed it in your edit. We do exactly that - dry it off with a few paper towels, then roast. As long as you can resist devouring the paper towels or dragging them all over the house (I’m looking at my sleeping dogs as I type this), it’s safe.

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    13 days ago

    My mom has always made me “wash chicken,” which would just be running it under water. Just chicken, nothing else.

    I used to do it out of habit, but laziness seems to have worked in my favor this time.

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    14 days ago

    Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.

    Cook it properly.

    If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.

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        Washed chicken is a stupid concept, I was including the unwashed part because that is the default state of uncooked chicken.

        Unless you accidentally drop a chicken on the floor and don’t want to waste it, there isn’t a reason to wash it.

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    12 days ago

    Nobody tell him about restaurant kitchens washing their chicken in bleach to remove the smell of freezer burn…

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    13 days ago

    Apparently washing your chicken was an old practice to “rinse the germs off”. In reality it just sprays germs everywhere. I can’t believe anyone thought it was a good idea.

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      12 days ago

      Bro just discovered marinade, thinks it’s “washing”. My steaks taste better if I “wash” them with lemon juice

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    I was going to mention not washing your chicken, but the comments nail it. Don’t wash your chicken, the bacteria just spreads around your kitchen.

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      12 days ago

      I remember watching an interview with some chef once. They were asked what common things they would see when they’re at someone’s house that would keep them from eating, just out of fear. Washing raw chicken in the sink was the instant answer. It splashes everywhere and is very likely to contaminate half your kitchen.

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        12 days ago

        That’s disgusting.

        That’s why I bring my raw chicken to the bathtub. The curtains keep it contained, and it gives me something to do while I shower.

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    13 days ago

    I’m confused what they think they’re washing off. If you don’t believe the cooking kills the germs then you’re not cooking it right (or are confused). If you think it’s something that won’t come off with cooking like dirt or dust, then, ew, why are you getting chicken from somewhere that gets it covered in dirt or dust?

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      13 days ago

      Sometimes it’s the bacteria that kills you sometimes it’s the poop of the bacteria that kills you. The latter won’t matter if you cook it well or not. But yeah generally it’s useless to wash chicken.

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      12 days ago

      I’m confused what they think they’re washing off.

      A LOT of kitchen practices in families are passed-down traditions, with a lot of people not really knowing why they do the things they do.

      My Filipino family-in-law washes their cuts of meat, which yeah is entirely unnecessary and I always wondered why they do it, then I traveled to the Philippines and saw the town where they lived, and most of the local butchers hang fresh cuts of meat up on hooks, uncovered, right next to busy roads and sidewalks.

      I genuinely don’t know how everyone there hasn’t died of acute food poisoning from the unrefrigerated meats in high heat and humidity, but they at least like to wash off the road grime and dust.

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        It can also help tenderize the meat (via vinegar or lemon/lime); I tend to find that, when “nondeveloped” countries talk about washing their meat, it means in a vinegar/citrus solution while “developed” countries quite literally mean just plain water.

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      I don’t know what this text is going on about. People don’t wash the ‘white shit’ off chicken. Some people think that washing chicken (or poultry in general) reduces the chance of cross contamination due to salmonella. In reality it makes it more likely for cross contamination because it splatters all around your sink and surrounding areas.

      It also doesn’t make it taste bland. It’s just useless.

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        My guess is that Anon made an assumption about what they were attempting to do while washing it off and that night didn’t put a lot of effort into the cooking and also expected it to taste bad.

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    14 days ago

    I never wash my meats, that would cast the external microbes around the kitchen. Instead, I blanch them in boiling water for a few minutes. It’s kinda like sous vide, but faster. It’s also fine if you forget it in the water for a bit, the meat will only get cleaner! Toss some broccoli into the water for full meal prep with minimal cleanup

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      Out of all the disturbing comments in this thread, this one gets to me the most, especially saying it’s like a sous vide.

      I love cooking my chicken in a sous vide, but you do it low and slow, 145 degrees for about 2 and a half hours.

      Excellent article on it here: https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-sous-vide-chicken-breast

      If you have one of these machines, I highly recommend trying it this way. Give it a quick sear in some cast iron after.

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        I tried sous vide baths but the ziplocks kept expanding and leaking, so I improvised. My son, trying to be helpful, kept spilling the warm hanger steak water on our dog, who didn’t mind at all but did manage to build a habit of tripping him on his way to the sink like a chihuahua-shaped guided trip cord. Even after she broke 3 of her legs in a botched attempt, looking like a potato on weighted stilts, the habit persisted. Then we moved on to blanching and my wife had to grind the handles off of our cast iron pot to prevent the kid from trying to move it. It was headache after compromise after headache, but my wife and I tolerated it for the perfect steaks. Just try to tell me they don’t look appetizing

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      What do you think happens to the microbes when you put the chicken in the pan or in the oven?

      Do you also blanche your steaks?

      You’re saying doing that makes the meat cleaner but you’re also sending broccoli in that dirty water?

      All you’re doing is taking the flavor out of your chicken and making a broth out of good meat, that’s ridiculous!