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As it turns out, Volkswagen has been collecting extensive geo data from all their electric cars and made them available online in an AWS bucket. Almost 10TB of geo traces from 15 MiO cars. Amazing detail and patterns. This is why I don't want a smart car 🤯 https://events.ccc.de/congress/2024/hub/en/event/wir-wissen-wo-dein-auto-steht-volksdaten-von-volkswagen/ #Volksdaten
See, this right here. You have no clue of the subject but you get pissed off instead of listening. They are absolutely not the same, which is why they get different names. Your EV is… an EV. The other model… isn’t
Hey it looks like some other guy didn’t help you much. I’m not going to help much either but I’d imagine that if your model has any kind of smart infotainment type of thing then it’s probably being tracked. I mean, from a business perspective, why wouldn’t you? It’d be lovely to have systems that allow you to navigate, take photos, listen to music, contact friends…without spying on you. Sadly, I don’t think companies see such things as being in their interests.
If you do find a list anywhere, I’d be interested to know. I don’t have a VW - just a petrol ford focus, but I imagine that my data is being collected in much the same way as this.
Electric cars are more associated with smart junk but most of it is in newer ICE cars as well. What engine the car has is of little relevance to the computer system.
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All new cars
It doesn’t say ‘new’. It says in both the source tweet and linked event scheduling description ‘electric cars’. Not new, not all… electric.
Does my 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV count as an EV in this case?
Electric is in the name…
It. Has. A combustion. Engine. Inside.
Because it is an electric vehicle with a generator. Hence why it wasn’t named a PHCE
Oh, fuck off with your sarcastic answers, sometimes a PHEV does count as an EV, other times it absolutely does not count.
So where does it state that PHEVs are counted in this case?
… it. is. in. the. name.
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The. Name. Does. Not. Mean. Anything. Unless. Specified. Directly.
For fuck sake.
Except. the. name. species. electric. vehicle. ffs
Name noun 1a: a word or phrase that constitutes the distinctive designation of a person or thing
That. Is. My. Point.
The. Seat. Leon. Mk4. Exists. In. Both. A. Normal. Petrol. Version. And. A. PHEV. Version.
The rest of the car is the same, so is it included?
You could just not have replied at all.
See, this right here. You have no clue of the subject but you get pissed off instead of listening. They are absolutely not the same, which is why they get different names. Your EV is… an EV. The other model… isn’t
Hey it looks like some other guy didn’t help you much. I’m not going to help much either but I’d imagine that if your model has any kind of smart infotainment type of thing then it’s probably being tracked. I mean, from a business perspective, why wouldn’t you? It’d be lovely to have systems that allow you to navigate, take photos, listen to music, contact friends…without spying on you. Sadly, I don’t think companies see such things as being in their interests.
If you do find a list anywhere, I’d be interested to know. I don’t have a VW - just a petrol ford focus, but I imagine that my data is being collected in much the same way as this.
I suspect as much.
Still, it would be nice to get a clear yes/no answer.
I am already certain that my car is one of those privacy nightmares as reported on by Mozilla, and it would be good to know how screwed I actually am.
As for why a car maker wouldn’t track the car and spy on the occupants, GDPR is a huge reason, I just hope that it gets used
Electric cars are more associated with smart junk but most of it is in newer ICE cars as well. What engine the car has is of little relevance to the computer system.