Or they’ll blame you for roping them into this exploitative shitshow with a side of climate apocalypse, and they’ll be correct.

  • Squorlple@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    15 days ago

    I say stop having kids to wholly avert the undeserved and nonconsensual suffering that is inherent to a sentient life and suffering across sentient lives should be minimized

      • qyron@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        15 days ago

        There was a christian sect that managed to be so sucessful at this, it went extinct.

          • qyron@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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            15 days ago

            You mind expanding a bit more on that? Not trying to take a jab at you. I really want to understand.

            • slackassassin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              15 days ago

              Just a joke about practicing what you preach, I suppose.

              I think we all write our own stories, for ourselves and humanity at large. If we’re able to turn this ship around, it won’t be because of the attitudes in this thread. It will be in spite of them.

              Kids are great. Life is challenging but worth living and worth fighting for.

              Positive perspective is valuable, and cynicism is just lazy counterproductive nonsense without it.

              • JayDee@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                12 days ago

                I believe you used Nihilism wrong in your previous comment based on what you’ve written here. I think more fitting words are hopelessness, pessimism, or defeatism.

                Nihilism is simply refutation of meaning within the world. You can still think kids are great and that life is worth living while believing that there is no meaning to life or any of the other nihilistic assertions. You can even choose to attribute new meaning to your life, as Nietzsche’s Übermensch does. See also Absurdism.

                • slackassassin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                  12 days ago

                  I did not. I was referring to a specific premise involved, which includes “extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence.” Which is relevant and appropriate. In short. But philosophy 101 is always enjoyable to discuss.

                  • JayDee@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    12 days ago

                    Yes, there is philosophical pessimism and skepticism within nihilism, but those can be mostly or entirely separated from the philosophical stances espoused by nihilists.

                    I would argue that most of the comments we see in this thread actually show is more of David Benatar’s antinatalist argument which is apart of philosophical pessimism. You don’t have to be a nihilist to agree with what he is arguing in it.