Things didn’t end well for the last guy…
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i feel sorry for SNL. how will they survive this?
They may not have to.
I get it, but having people feel bad for the TSA of all organizations is a tall order. Why not pick a less controversial gov agency effected like say the National Parks and Museums?
Probably because parks and museums usually just close whenever this happens, so they’re not working without pay. They’re just on an indefinite suspension
And yet I can feel for them more, If the TSA was gone tomorrow I could not care.
The way it setup it will not mean the removal of the stupid safety theater, it will mean the closing of the airport.
I know, and that makes me even less inclined to have sympathy for the TSA as a whole. I know I should feel bad for the people working at the TSA, but I can’t.
I’m still seeing that the shutdown is looming. Did anything change?
Nope. Elon Musk is still the president.
Lol I meant has the shutdown happened, but thank you for the update.
Not a meme.
meme
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A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.
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Any unit of cultural information, such as a practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.
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A self-propagating unit of cultural evolution having a resemblance to the gene (the unit of genetics).
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik
The current definition is actually just “thing on internet”. But the reason the person you’re responding is upset is they are a hyper conservative bootstrapper.
Yeah, they use “politics” when they mean “thing I didn’t want to think about” and “meme” for “picture with words that I liked”.
Don’t worry about it. This person has announced that they will be putting this in every post they decide doesn’t fit their personal criteria until they’re banned.
And their bio is a lie. They proved that in the same thread.
I read their bio just now and had a chuckle at the wild self deception.
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Or just don’t show up to work, and start looking for another job.
What they gonna do? Shoot you for “being sick and unable to report to work”?
Message for Government Employees: If you work a government job, DON’T GO TO WORK WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN. Fuck that BS, don’t let the government treat you like a slave. Calling out from work is not a crime (even if it is, fuck them anyways).
All TSA agents should strike at the same time those days, wearing green hats and fake mustaches
Nothing would change, the TSA does nothing but harass lawful citizens.
Yeah lol, people would probably have a great travel experience and want to make it permanent. Strikes only work if your job is important to someone, otherwise they work against you
I’m gonna guess that the airports will shut down in the US if TSA is not available. They’re not just gonna let people through without any security in place.
They let people through unscreened on holidays. I let them buy me out of my ticket on a long weekend once and flying the next day was so nice. A few dozen of us were just waved past security and right to the gate. Just had to show we had a boarding pass. This was at a big Texas airport too.
Right, because all the terrorists are just waiting for an impromptu TSA strike.
If the choice is profits or security for customers…
But there’s probably some more systems that prevent it
They aren’t allowed to strike.
Disruption is the point of striking.
They are legally not allowed to strike. They would be fired immediately for dereliction of their position. It’s part of the negotiation when they take a federal job.
What will they do if all TSA agents are fired tho?
If the government is going to be derelect in its duty to pay its workers, then workers can do the same to their positions.
Though I would be looking for another job and quit without notice when one is found in this case. Fuck Musk. No one voted for his ass.
Have you met them? They’re basically otherwise unemployable.
Meh, I’m sure their local police force, who are toally well trained and organized and not filled with overweight people, would gladly accept them, just look at what the average cop looks like. These TSA agents will fit right in.
(Not that I want there to be more cops, but sadly thats where these people will end up. 🤷♂️)
The comment about weight was unnecessary, even though I broadly agree with the message.
I was imagining that their point was that police officers are supposed to be fit.
I have a friend who is a TSA agent and he’s a lovely and intelligent person. He took the job because it was the best thing available to him and federal jobs (usually) come with very good benefits and health coverage. He hadn’t seen a doctor for about 6 years before he got the job because his insurance and PTO was so terrible at his last job.
Yeah, there’s always some exception. Hope your friend is doing well.
Go to work and do nothing but look for a new job on your phone. What are they gonna do, not pay you anymore?
So far they’ve gotten paid every time, just late.
So far…
If my job ever skips a check I’m not coming back until I get it. Fuck that. Everyone not getting paid because of this should stay home and let chaos happen. Cause some real consequences to Musk and the rest of them.
I’m sorry but, FUCK THE TSA. Go join a real theater group, assholes.
People being forced to work without pay is slavery. No one deserves to be a slave, even if they’re normally paid to do something and that something is not useful.
It’s sad that this is apparently a unique take. Sure, “fuck giant corporations”, I agree. But pay the fucking workers who literally do everything.
Nobody is forcing them to take security theater jobs oppressing other people. Even the workers can get fucked imo.
Work is work. They’re patting down people and scanning x-ray screens. If you disagree with the TSA, vote to abolish it. Until then, requiring that department to work without pay only affects the Working Class.
Because it’s so easy to find a job.
I guess if all you do is worship at the altar of the dollar bill and have no morals then this is a logical argument to make.
Or, you know, have children that rely on you.
But yeah, fuck them.
Let them eat cake.They’ll be fine.You’re acting like it’s the only job in the world. Maybe don’t have kids if the only way you can put food on the table is by ruining air travel for 100% of people?
Fuck the TSA, but the people who work there because it is a paying job deserve stable employment like the rest of us. They don’t make the decisions.
But most of the time you can choose your job… Of course working for the TSA might be more comfortable, but what you do with your life is not usually forced.
Yes, you can choose your job, but it is a pretty big pain in the butt to do so. I don’t feel like the “you can just get a better job” argument is a strong one in general.
Does this goes for the police as well?
Depends how responsible you think the system is for their behavior and if you feel people deserve a second chance.
I think ACAB, but I believe their bad behavior is mostly due to systemic pressures.
When they have enough oversight that the “thin blue line” is no longer a thing.
Everyone should know the Chris Dorner story.
Sorry, but unemployed TSA should get no sympathy. In fact, if you want to kill government programs, it should be at the front of the line. Pork barrel security theater bullshit.
Fuck the TSA and the idiots on power trips working for them.
It’s not the employees’ fault, saying they should get no sympathy is a dick move.
That aside, I agree the TSA is a great example of the kind of spending that needs cut and the department dissolved.
Have you seen the kind of people these kinds of jobs attracts? We aren’t talking about Starbucks workers, we are mostly talking about people that get off on power trips.
Yeah I was going to say this. Just because their pay is shit, does not make TSA employees nice people.
You don’t exactly work together to keep those psychos out dontcha
How about their kids? Should they get sympathy? Because these people won’t be able to feed them.
Government shutdowns affect far more than just the employees, and in this case those employees are literally being used as slaves. Maybe that deserves sympathy too… unless you think “idiots on power trips” deserve to be enslaved. I don’t think anyone does personally.
Do you have that same attitude towards ICE agents kids?
People lose their jobs all the time and still feed their kids. A government shutdown is a good thing.
Yes, I do. Because people deserve to be paid. Not paying someone and forcing them to work has a name. Slavery.
If you get hired for a job, even if it’s an immoral job, you deserve to be paid. People who work at payday loan places, people who work for TurboTax, people who work on oil rigs, people who work on factory farms and slaughterhouses all deserve to be paid and children do not deserve to suffer because politicians can’t get their shit together.
A government shutdown is in no way a good thing just because certain government departments you personally don’t like will not pay their employees. There’s a lot of other people who are helpful that also will not be getting paid.
Or do you think it’s a good thing to not have things like air traffic controllers and food inspectors? If so, you’re a libertarian and you will be very unhappy with Trump’s dictatorship.
If the government shuts down, it means they go home, not that they’re forced to work without pay.
David Pekoske, the head of the TSA, tweeted that 95% of TSA employees are classified as essential workers and will work without pay in the event of a shutdown. Air traffic controllers are also considered essential employees and would be asked to work without pay. Federal employees would receive backpay after the shutdown ends.
Second time I’ve had to do this in this thread.
lol, and now Lemmy users are anti-worker.
How about you go fuck yourself?
Working on oppression is not a job to be respected.
It’s a fucking TSA agent. They don’t really have the power to oppress you, just to annoy you to no end.
Oh so you’re pro-cop?
Being a “worker” does not absolve you of being a class traitor.
Yalls petty ass arguing is a prime example of why the fascists just won. Can’t agree on a god damn thing and just tearing each other apart over petty bullshit
What an irrelevant comment.
Fuck the TSA it’s a jobs program. They are so goddamn worthless.
What are you ? A right-winger
For real. Like Fox News pundits, they’re being paid to not understand the consequences of their own work. They’re a drain on tax funds performing ineffective security theater at the cost of convenience, privacy, and sometimes the flights of ordinary people. If you’re TSA, you should consider something else that would be of greater social benefit.
I wonder how this will affect unexpected delays during holiday travel.
Badly
Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.
Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.
We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding
What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.
Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.
This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.
Just a reminder that Elon Musk is not from the United States.
…which is why he had to buy a president instead of buy the presidency.
He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.
Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it produces which gave us our modern hellscape.
Fuck musk and fuck everyone Like him
That said: fuck everyone who works for the TSA, bunch of useless dickheads who take out their anger on those trying to fly while objectively failing to catch basic security failures. Much like anyone who works for an insurance company: they can rot for all I care
We can find a better jobs program than making air travel suck.
If we want to abolish the TSA and move the money into a dramatically expanded AmTrak, I’m here for it.
But if you think the modern era of school shootings and abortion clinic bombings and J6 riots is going to give us a de-securitized airport system, I’d kindly ask you to pass me what you’re smoking.
We made flights more secure with the better door to the cockpit. The TSA part is equally effective as a metal detector is. It wouldn’t be less secure to not do the enhanced screening the TSA does. It would mean several companies lose out on massive contracts for that fancy equipment, which is why it won’t happen.
Until working is optional I never blame the lowest in the hierarchy. I’ve worked some shit jobs of questionable morality in my time because I had to eat and pay rent and couldn’t gamble having a roof over my head on a better job coming along.
All airport jobs look shit, I mean that sympathetically.
Eating and paying rent ≠ permission to be a power crazy dickhead just because you can (TSA workers).
They’re not the lowest in the hierarchy. They’re selling us out, like prison guards.
fuck everyone who works for the TSA, bunch of useless dickheads
Federal government creates a giant CYA department to account for their massive intelligence failure 23 years ago and now I’m going to be angry at the now-currently-unpaid 23 year old directing me through a metal detector so I don’t try and bring a gun onto a high speed high occupancy mid-air aluminum tube because she isn’t doing the REAL WORK of playing candy crush in a squad car like a proper police officer.
FFS, I’d argue that TSA is the most useful form of police officer currently on duty. I’ve been through my local airport a hundred times and I consistently find them to be polite, patient, and stoic in a way street cops never are.
because she isn’t doing the REAL WORK of playing candy crush in a squad car like a proper police officer.
Your words, not mine, fuck the police and don’t put words in my mouth
FFS, I’d argue that TSA is the most useful form of police officer currently on duty
You’d very much be wrong. While the cops aren’t great by any means the TSA consistently fails audits and has, last I heard, stopped an estimated 0 incidents of terrorism. Cops at least do have track records of stopping some crimes
I’ve been through my local airport a hundred times and I consistently find them to be polite, patient, and stoic in a way street cops never are.
I’m very glad you’ve had that experience, actually. Having flown out of 12 states and 4 countries: US TSA is the rudest and slowest of the security teams 99.9% of the time and it’s not even close
the TSA consistently fails audits and has, last I heard, stopped an estimated 0 incidents of terrorism
My coworker just got done negotiating payment on a $7000 fine for carrying a gun through security. She was not the only one at the courthouse for this kind of infraction. The TSA certainly seems to be catch some number of potential incidents. But one more notable consequence of the TSA (and contemporary international organizations) has been a sharp plunge in the frequency of airplane hijackings, which I certainly appreciate.
US TSA is the rudest and slowest of the security teams
As someone who regularly travels through Europe, you could not possibly be more incorrect. Italy is far and away the rudest. And I’ve seen airports from Korea to Turkyie get jammed up for hours due to their comparatively primitive security screenings. Had a domestic Japanese flight that ended up taking me four hours just to board, because of security delays. Taking the Shinkansen from Sapporo to Tokyo would have been faster, despite going a third the speed of the plane.
The TSA certainly seems to be catch some number of potential incidents
Should have been more clear (oh wait just reread my comment and I already was clear on this your point is irrelevant): incidents of actual terrorism and not people forgetting something in their bag with 0 intention of actually doing something with it. They also love to take shit that should be allowed, too, because they’re thieves on a power trip
But one more notable consequence of the TSA (and contemporary international organizations) has been a sharp plunge in the frequency of airplane hijackings, which I certainly appreciate.
Not the TSA at all, that’s the air Marshalls and other increased security in the actual plane like hard locked cockpits
incidents of actual terrorism and not people forgetting something in their bag
You’re backing yourself into a corner, because you now seem to acknowledge TSA is doing something, you just think its a thing that only applies to “good” people rather than “bad” people.
And your rubric is contradictory. If the TSA stops you with a gun before you get on the plane, you get to say “My bad, please just let me off with warning” or they’ve failed at their jobs. But if you let someone with a gun onto a plane and then they hijack the plane, they’ve failed to stop a terrorist. How does a TSA agent stop a terrorist incident on these terms? Is the argument that the TSA is useless because terrorist attacks aren’t being thwarted at the moment the individual passes through the metal detector?
air Marshalls and other increased security in the actual plane like hard locked cockpits
Are additional measures that help screen for less-conventional weapons and strategies. But, again, we seem to be using “stopped a terrorist attack” as only happening after it has begun. TSA isn’t on board the planes, so there’s no way they can ever do the thing you’re giving Air Marshals and locked doors credit for.
That TSA as a first-stage screen reduces the number of incidents air marshals and door locks have to prevent as a last resort doesn’t seem to matter.
Leave it to Weevil to be entirely unable to read
Fun fact, when you’re a dickhead to people, they usually respond in turn. Stop being a piece of human shit and they’ll be nice too :)
Its the TSA employees that need to hear that, not me
I’m a fucking customer service rep in my normal job, I get that public facing roles suck. I walk up with my ID ready, ready to follow the arbitrary rule changes theyve made in the last few weeks, and use basic politeness even when they’re incredibly rude to my face
Abolish the TSA, they’re entirely useless
I’ll let them know the next time I get through security just fine that some internet stranger thinks they are all fuckwits. I agree they are useless but to just generalize every single TSA employee as a dickhead is definitely a choice
to just generalize every single TSA employee as a dickhead is definitely a choice
The reading comprehension on this fucking website I swear to god
Musk and Trump showed me, that I don’t have to think about being a good enough person… Obviously I easily am (it’s enough not to kill/rape/extort,… who would have thought it’s so easy?)
two memes in one post?
So is a South African buying his way into the U.S. presidency, but here we are.
You know, I’ve heard of a solution to the CEO problem recently thats making the news cycle…
Can’t build a wall tall enough for southafrica. Us Mex people know that.
this is why we need a wall tall enough to keep planes out /s
Out of the loop, what do you mean SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT???
Don’t worry, the DEA will work for IOUs until the matter is settled.
It’s a thing that’s been happening a lot over the past few years where US politicians refuse to sign bills that approve government spending (such as continuing to pay government employees) until their demands about some unrelated thing are met.
I believe the term for this is “political blackmail”.
Why it is accepted and legal, I don’t understand.
because it’s a tool that can be useful
It shouldn’t have to be useful. This is just a sign of failed governance.
It’s useful in a healthy democracy. Which the US isn’t.
Maybe as a last resort. Not the defect of standard every couple of months hold the entire government hostage.
Hey let’s do some really evil shit and if you don’t agree, we’re gonna shut down the government and not pay anyone
Useful to whom?
Sounds like terrorism to me
No, no, terrorism is when you kill people who have money.
And they ripped out funding for pediatric cancer research. $250 million… or around 0.05% of president Musk’s net worth. Why do repubs hate kids with cancer?
Everyone hates kids in general
You know what everyone hates more? A grown adult behaving like a kid.
Spoken like a true “Adult behaving like a kid” Why don’t you refute my points like an adult
Because reminder murder of a pregnant woman is counted as double homicide
For the double murder point, the fetus is classified as a potential human.
Why can’t I get life insurance on a fetus?
I don’t want nor will ever have kids, so please take it to heart when I say: You are behaving like an immature toddler.
Whoa whoa whoa you can’t go around funding kids healthcare. Then they are gonna become adult voters who expect more free healthcare.
You want kids who get to adulthood on the skin of their teeth, or kids who don’t get to adulthood at all. There’s no in-between.
Also 900 million will not be going to North Carolina hurricane relief.
Cold heartless bastards
Assuming I did my math correctly these two things would have been a combined total of .002% of the federal budget.
Can’t buy a B2 with hurricane relief.
You mean the state that put this asshole in power?
Leopards getting fat here.
why can’t north carolina use hurricane insurance instead of relying on the feds?
Yeah, those people living in the (checks notes) mountains in (checks notes again) inland North Carolina knew the risks of not getting Hurricane insurance!
Technically it was a tropical storm. Case denied.
Why can’t the government take care of it’s people instead of making them rely on private insurance? It’s the government. They should be doing things like taking care of their citizens during times of crisis.
They want to strip away everything that reduces infant mortality, so that people start having more kids again since so many of them will die young.
Then later they give it back, and since they already took away the right to abortion… Boom, population explosion and a bunch of poor kids are born to later be exploited in factories and wars.
You were doing so well until you said “Right to abort” Oops I meant Right to kill unborn children
Is it too late to abort you? Because you blatantly fail at having a basic grasp on reality.
It’s a fetus, not a child.
It’s a fully-developed human that didn’t get a chance to live
A fetus is objectively not fully formed. What do you think its doing in the womb for all those months, just hanging out? When abortions happen its just a bundle of cells that cant think, breathe, or live on its own.
Yes it is, buddy, you know what is also a bunch of cells ? Comatose patients
Yeah a bunch of cells which have FULLY FORMED into a person. Something a fetus has in no way done.
Cancer
Cancer is a bunch of cells. By your logic it is immoral to treat cancer. Cancer has human DNA. Cancer can also live independent of the human that spawned it.
We should stop killing cancer too.
A coma involves brain activity in a highly developed nervous system, often with a high chance of recovery.
A fetus has a tiny, undeveloped nervous system, with no higher brain functions.
These are not at all equivalent. One is a person, and the other is not.
Okay, I don’t agree with the emotional concept that a fetus is a person innately, but I can at least understand where that type of thinking comes from. Claiming it’s a fully-developed human is just demonstrably wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion, but feelings aren’t facts. I sincerely hope this is a sad attempt at trolling.
This isn’t feelings, it’s science buddy What YOU’RE saying is opinion & your “opinion” can also be applied on comatose people as well Next time, curb your gaslighting & try Family planning
Ooo, gaslighting. Another word you don’t understand. Keep going. I’m so close.
What is your solution for fetal anomalies that will inevitably lead to stillbirth or death in the first few hours of life? What is your solution for pregnancy abnormalities that put the life of the mother at serious risk? What is your solution for women who are desperately trying to escape monstrously abusive relationships that got pregnant from marital rape or coercion?
Do you believe people who are unresponsive and comatose for a long period should be kept alive despite the families wishes?
I’m trying so hard not to reply to this nonsense…
Claims science, states no actual science, strawmans up an example that isn’t related to the original in any way. claims gaslighting with no actual reference to gaslighting behavior.
No slurs or personal attacks, but i feel like you’re going for the subtle approach so you probably don’t need those right now.
Hmm, so this is up there, i feel like it’s missing something though, can’t quite place what, but i’ll keep an eye on the replies in case i spot it.
Anyway, 8/10 shitpost, good job, no notes.
While i have you, it sounds like you are a person familiar with how science works and will give me an actual answer rather than deflect.
What is the scientific definition of “parasite”?
Then how come they can’t survive without leeching off a host? 80% of pregnancies spontaneously end in miscarriage. That doesn’t sound viable or fully developed to me. If it could survive outside the womb, you’d have a point. But it can’t, so you don’t.
You know who was actually fully-developed? All the women who have died due to pregnancy complications thanks to draconic laws that take away their rights over their own bodies. I’ll hold you responsible for murdering them.
You clearly don’t know biology do you & are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ? BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)
- American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. (2020)
- National Center for Health Statistics. (1999). Trends in Pregnancies and Pregnancy Rates.
- JAMA Network. (2020)
I hold you responsible for the billions of deaths of unborn children, because of your stupidity & selfishness & inhumanity
You clearly don’t know biology do you
Says the person claiming a fetus is a fully developed human.
are you capable of sustaining yourself I you were left in a jungle ?
Millions of people live in the jungles of the world. How many fetuses live outside wombs? Oh right, none. Because there’s a difference between having the skills to survive in the jungle, and being a fully developed human capable of independent biological survival.
Have you ensured that every single one of your gametes resulted in a child? Then you’re a genocidal hypocrite.
BTW, it’s around 13.5 percent but regardless it’s not 80% (that’s a lie)
Sure, if you only measure after 6 weeks.
For women of reproductive age, losses between implantation and clinical recognition are approximately 10–25%. Loss from implantation to birth is approximately one third [39, 46, 48, 49].
A recent re-analysis [39] of data from three studies [46, 48, 49] concluded that, in normal healthy women, 10–40% is a plausible range for pre-implantation embryo loss and overall pregnancy loss from fertilisation to birth is approximately 40–60%.
By definition a fetus is not a fully developed human…
A tiny cluster of cells is not a “fully developed human”
Tissues & organs are not “tiny cluster of cells” You are
no u
Okay, troll.
No. A fully developed human would be post-pubescent. Until then you are either a fetus incapable of living outside your mother’s body, or a baby capable of independent life with some sort of care.
Fetuses are NOT babies. Stop being obtuse.
Get the fuck out of here
I assume you’ve adopted multiple unwanted children in the foster system including severely disabled ones, right?
Since you think that “unborn children” shouldn’t be “killed,” you’ve got to be a major part of the solution.
Tell me about your severely disabled kids you adopted from the foster system.
I actually donate & visit Orphanages & teach them science Oh I am part of the solution buddy, way more than you since you’re a deadbeat childkiller along with the rest of this community
How hard is it for you to plan for pregnancy ?? Because female contraceptives have a riddiculously high success rate
Oh fuck right off with that bullshit. Abortions are a medical procedure. Women have died because they can’t get them. Or should we just let fetuses that die in utero rot inside the womb and kill the poor woman who lost her baby through no fault of her own?
That’s just one example off the top of my head.
Nobody wants to or is killing children. That’s some hyperbolic bullshit.
I just went through about 3 pages of their comment history.
Therein lies a tale.
There are no orphanages in the U.S.
Also, please name the 100% effective contraceptive.
Besides abstinence and surgical sterilization.
Fair, but I would suggest that married couples who want more than one child should be allowed to choose to have as much sex as they want until they’re ready to have that next child. Of course, anti-abortion crusaders never think about the fact that it isn’t just those dirty sluts getting abortions. Married people have sex too.
If you don’t want to have an abortion, no one’s ever been forcing you.
Why you think it’s appropriate to force others is weird.
The same reason it’s appropriate to jail murderers (That Child is NOT your body)
Imagine thinking a clump of cells is a “child” anymore than the mole on my ass.
Nah, you don’t really believe that.
You already know that in an abortion, no one is typically killing the fetus (which btw is less of a human than a chicken egg is human), they’re just removing it from the body it’s parasiting off of. Not the mother’s fault it can’t survive, and I’m pretty sure you’re for curing cancer or tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.
Besides, in many cases the fetus is already dead or terminal anyway.
And even if this was codified under law as murder, it wouldn’t be the mother doing it, but a licensed professional, much like police, soldiers or wardens.
Thats’s a lot of mental gymnastics to insert yourself into someone’s health care and sex life. That’s kind of weird…
Republicans have spread this myth that women use abortion like birth control. Just like the myth of the black welfare Queen, spitting out kids just to draw a check. It’s all bullshit and they know it, they just hate poor people.
I’m pro-choice, but saying a fetus doesn’t have human DNA is fucking retarded.
tape worm which also contain more human dna than a fetus does.
Not that im disagreeing with your overall argument, but a fetus has 100% human dna… otherwise it wouldnt develop into a human lol
A fetus does indeed have 100% human DNA, but a tape worm has about 70% human DNA.
An 8 week fetus is about 20 g, an 8 week tape worm can become up to 30 ft, weighing several pounds. 70 % of a pound is more than 20 g.
And with the new slave mother laws, the fetus isn’t more than a handful of grams at the cut off date, making it all the more poignant.
Because they’re not profitable.
