This is actually horrific. I’m disgusted, like, ew. This is a lose-lose for everyone involved.

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      9 days ago

      I’m not saying it isn’t her choice, I’m saying she obviously needs help. That even if its her choice, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t need help. If you saw someone engaging in self-destructive behavior, you would still want to help them right? A crack addict technically “chooses” to do drugs, that doesn’t mean you should just leave them to themselves.

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        9 days ago

        I leave drug addicts alone. I see them all the time, give them room, they are adults and made their choice.

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          9 days ago

          obviously, at a granular level, there’s nothing you can do outside of refuse to give them money. the same applies to porn stars etc. But from a top-down level, like, a policy level, these people need help.

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            9 days ago

            So it comes back to body autonomy. People can’t use their bodies to do things you don’t like… thats a hard rule to enforce… how far do you go? Can’t marry someone you don’t like? Can’t have sex with people you don’t like? Only sex for making babies? No tattoos?

            And where ever you draw the line, someone else will want to draw the line someplace else.

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              9 days ago

              Reinforcing age old historical norms is a great place to start. Like, I dunno, making sex work illegal. making non-committal sex taboo again. there are a lot of ways to do this.