• cqst@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    13 days ago

    Ukraine allies with the US for the same reason Vietnam often sides with the US over China: the empire next door is a bigger problem than the empire on the other side of the planet. The US is the lesser evil in those situations, especially in Ukraine’s case.

    Ukraine allies with the west because of years of US imperialism to force the country in a war with Russia for its own imperial interests.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Burns_(diplomat)

    In 2008, Burns wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.”[17]

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/10/nato-refuses-to-backtrack-on-ukraine-georgia-membership-promise

    Ukraine was duped by the west. The west tricked Ukraine into thinking that they would support them and invite them into NATO, but in actuality the goal was always to start a war with Russia. As you can see with Trumps victory in the USA, USA is about to pull the plug on Ukraine and this war will reveal itself for what it always was.

    The alternative is being an actual puppet to an empire that sees you as nothing but a buffer and a breadbasket.

    This is how the EU sees Ukraine

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Duped by the west into wanting protection from their imperialist neighbor? I wonder why they’d want that? 🤔

      America being an evil empire doesn’t make Russia justified in throwing half a million lives down the drain like it’s nothing. Ukraine was never expected by anybody to join NATO until Crimea, and even then, most of the West would’ve preferred neutrality for Ukraine. It was a redline for most of NATO as well, because they knew it was more trouble than it was worth. Wannabe imperial powers like Turkey play their own game, even within NATO.

      US bad ≠ Russia good. Russia is very, very bad actually.

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        11 days ago

        most of the West would’ve preferred neutrality for Ukraine.

        While true, just makes a war only for Ukraine’s NATO aspiration that much stupider, or more likely dishonest.