• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      316·
      20 days ago

      What if your kid was in his 50s, and has spent decades showing they’re not going to change and you know the reason they’re such a shit person is you helped them escape consequences their whole lives.

      To the point where they literally write an autobiography admitting to a litany of crimes?

      Would you continue to shield him of consequences to the point you pardon him for “any and all crimes” over more than a decade?

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          20 days ago

          And I agree with that, because it’s a child you are teaching.

          I was asking if you hadn’t ever let you kid face consequences till his 50s, he publicly confessed for crimes you were aware of and didn’t turn him in.

          Because at 50 years old… You’re not teaching them a lesson.

          So would you continue knowing your son is gonna just keep smoking crack and breaking laws, or would you treat them like any other person and throw them headfirst into the justice system like the crime bill you wrote in 1992 did to tens of millions of actual children for 32 years?

          • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
            21·
            20 days ago

            OP’s question was a out whether I would encouragey child to do whatever they want, lneing I could remove any criminal consequences. I would not so encourage them. Grind your axe elsewhere.

    • stinerman [Ohio]@midwest.socialEnglish
      3·
      20 days ago

      but doesn’t protect him from anything he may go on to do

      The only limitation on the pardon power is that it must be for things that have already happened. It is not possible to pardon someone for things they might do in the future.

      • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        20 days ago

        That is not specified in the Constitution, and is an open question. Nobody has ever tried, to my knowledge.

        • stinerman [Ohio]@midwest.socialEnglish
          3·
          20 days ago

          This is true. No one has tried, and it hasn’t been adjudicated. However everyone treats pardons as needing to be backwards-looking.

    • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      20 days ago

      Also somewhat amusing that my reply about the US Constitution, our founding political document, remains up. Discussing the Constitution is about as political as you can get.

      At any rate, I didn’t realize there was a new rule here. I get it though, election year and all.

      • Bluetreefrog@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        21·
        19 days ago

        Also somewhat amusing that my reply about the US Constitution, our founding political document, remains up.

        I removed the comment above yours. I took the approach that where a comment could reasonably be interpreted as a hypothetical question (or response to), and thus not about actual US politics as they are occurring, they were left up. It’s about trying to remove posts and comments that are against the purpose of the community, but also respecting those that are not. Personal judgement is often required and not everyone will agree with every decision. Shades of grey…