• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    19 hours ago

    There is no objective truth. You wanting to project objective truth does not make it more real. Reality is a mystery, and using tools incorrectly to fool yourself into objective truth is a miscarriage of science.

    You’re trying to apply materialism to allegory. Evaluating religion this way is a meaningless argument.

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      19 hours ago

      Is the statement that there is no objective truth objectively true? If so, there is some objective truth, and the statement is false. Like I said, it’s a self-defeating claim.

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          17 hours ago

          What does set theory have to do with absolute truth? And if there is no absolute truth, how can any aspect of set theory be valid?

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                14 hours ago

                I can, but I won’t. This is no longer an entertaining use of my time. I’m not going to explain the implications of Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem to someone with such a shaky grasp of epistemology. Pearls before swine.

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                  13 hours ago

                  It’s odd that you won’t explain your epistemology to someone, but you will claim moral/intellectual superiority in not explaining an actually important point after debating them on the hypothetical sentience of the sun for over a day. You can throw all the names of theorems you want at a conversation. but the simple fact is that “there is no absolute truth” is a self-contradictory statement. Any philosophy you build on such a fragile foundation is a non-starter.

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                    13 hours ago

                    Which is precisely why I’m not going to explain epistemology to someone who has repeatedly demonstrated poor logical methodology.